zondag 5 februari 2012

Rapture under attack!


Rapture adversaries take sides with Jesuits!
Opname tegenstanders kiezen partij voor Jezuïeten!

Attack # 1: Dr Alberto Rivera JESUIT INFILTRATION 
 (go to 6:54 min.)

Attack # 2:

Library : LaHaying The Rapture On Thick - Catholic Culture

Google search: rapture under attack jesuits

Attack # 3:

Jesuits Fabricated the Rapture 

Google search: rapture jesuit invention

Google search: Left Behind by the Jesuits debunked

Google search: Left Behind by the Jesuits refuted

Google search: Rapture adversaries take sides with Jesuits 

 

The satanic Jesuits couldn't foretell that Israel would be re-established by God in 1947/1948, and this fact is a key argument for the believe in the Rapture, seven years BEFORE the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to His Land and His People, because The Lord Jesus Christ is a Jew!

 

All believers in Jesus Christ should make a distinction between God's plan with Israel and with His congregation of Holy Spirit-filled-believers. The Rapture is all about the removal of the Holy Spirit, INCLUDING the real worshippers of Christ Jesus, before the emergence of the antichrist. This is necessary because of the fulfillment of the prophecies. The antichrist will NOT appear before the rapture has taken place, SEVEN years prior to JESUS' second coming.

 

 

De satanische Jezuïeten konden niet voorspellen dat Israël zou worden hersteld door God in 1947/1948, en dit feit is een belangrijke argument voor het geloof in de Opname, zeven jaar voor de tweede komst van Jezus Christus naar zijn land en zijn volk, omdat de Heer Jezus Christus een Jood is! 

 

Alle gelovigen in Jezus Christus moeten een onderscheid maken tussen Gods plan met Israël en met Zijn gemeente van Heilige Geest vervulde-gelovigen. De Opname heeft alles te maken het verwijderen van de Heilige Geest, INCLUSIEF de echte aanbidders van Christus Jezus, vóór de komst van de antichrist.  Dit is noodzakelijk vanwege de vervulling van de profetieën. De antichrist zal NIET verschijnen voordat de opname heeft plaatsgevonden, ZEVEN jaar vóór JEZUS' tweede komst. 

 

Rapture (Under Attack): Will You Escape the Tribulation?

An excellent book about God's truth!, April 15, 1999

By 
This review is from: Rapture (Under Attack): Will You Escape the Tribulation? (Paperback)
Tim Lahaye's book is thoroughly based on scripture. He takes a literal interpretation of God's word on end time events. There are many dissenting views as opposed to the pre-trib rapture view, but they are not biblically sound. The scriptures back up and support a pre-trib view. If you have your bible, read it for yourself! So many times in his book, Lahaye shows that the church will be saved from the wrath to come. The believers in Christ will be raptured and taken out of this world, and he backs this all up with scripture. If you want to know and understand the book of Revelation to a greater degree, and you want to know what will happen when Jesus comes for his bride(the church), then this is the book for you. Tim Lahaye helps to explain God's near-future plan!




Why Is Pre-trib Rapture Hated So Much?



Proof of a PreTribulation Rapture




Evidence for Pre-Trib Rapture




Misconceptions about the rapture




The Rapture of the Church - by Jack Kinsella




The day of the Lord will not come until the Rapture first takes place




IS THE RAPTURE IN 2 THESSALONIANS 2:3?

 

 

 

Defending The Pre-trib Rapture

 

 

Discerning The Trumpets (Revelation 1:8-10)

 

What does "except there come a falling away first" in 2 Thess. 2:3 mean? 

 

Pre Tribulation Rapture Explained in Detail

 

The Pre Tribulation Rapture is the only truth

 

 

An interesting discussion on Twitter about the Rapture

 

 

Why I Believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture 

 

 

PROOFS OF THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE 

 

 

There is no Apostasy or Falling Away

 

 

 

7 Reasons Why We Believe in a Rapture before the Great Tribulation 

 

 

Why the Rapture of the Church Has To Happen Before the Seven Year Tribulation Pt 1

 

Pre-trib Rapture and Early Church, 144,000, Time is Short! 

 

 

SATAN'S GREAT LIE 

 

 

 

 

There is NO rapture!

 

 

 

Rapture under attack! 2

 

 

 

202 opmerkingen:

  1. Amen to most of your video, but not to the wrong translation of 2 THESSALONIANS 2:3
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html
    I say 'amen' to the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, but not to 'Christmas' (Roman Catholic SUN-worship) and 'Easter' ('goddess' Ishtar from Babylon), but I say 'amen' to JESUS' resurrection....amen?
    JESUS' bless you!
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    Hans S
    1 second ago

    +Hans S Discerning The Trumpets (Revelation 1:8-10)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt87fd1ep9Q

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  2. Brother, I'm not afraid of the devil, the antichrist and the false prophet, but the (pre-trib)Rapture is necessary.
    Please, follow this topic, and JESUS=GOD bless you: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html
    BTW: my name is Hans, from Johannes (John in English), from the Hebrew Yochanan, meaning I AM* = MERCIFUL!
    *God's NAME
    JESUS name means I AM SALVATION

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  3. Since when is 2 Thessalonians 2:3 about ETERNAL SALVATION?

    Since when are you in a position to judge LIKE GOD=JESUS?
    Sometimes I envy DECEASED believers in JESUS Christ, because they are no longer worried about these kind of issues.
    They will be the FIRST to be RAPTURED, when the PRE-TRIB-RAPTURE will occur.
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    Hans S
    2 seconds ago

    +Morgan Sorensen
    You are a VERY PROUD and COMPLACENT person!
    My Father doesn't like proud people!
    God is my Father!
    The King James Bible is NOT PERFECT!
    And King James was a (hidden) HOMOSEXUAL!
    He was NOT a born again follower of JESUS Christ!
    The NAME of God is NOT 'LORD' as in the KJV 1611, but 'I AM, who I AM' and in short 'I AM'.

    SATAN HATES THE NAME OF GOD!!!

    And WHO is God?

    JESUS name means: 'I AM SALVATION'

    JESUS is the GREAT 'I AM'!

    JESUS is GOD!

    Do you KNOW Him....are you saved?

    Or do you want to go on with your PERSONAL WARS against fellow believers in Jesus Christ in HEAVEN?

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  4. This is PURE POISON!
    Rapture under attack! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html
    The Rapture of the Church
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/03/the-rapture-of-church-by-jack-kinsella.html
    But people may believe what they want...
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    Hans S
    x second ago

    Note how AGGRESIVE those anti-pre-tribulation-rapture believers are!
    I've argued a lot with those people, and they come across as DEMONIC and SATANIC as if they want to MURDER you!
    Most of the time they wish pre-tribulation-rapture believers in JESUS Christ, the WORST!

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  5. +preppy187
    Thanks for your great response
    and I'm a pre-tribulation-rapture adherent for about 30 years, and I passed this on to my Google+ followers who don't (yet) see that the pre-tribulation-rapture is the only logical and Biblical ACTION God-JESUS is going to take, so that the Antichrist and the False Prophet (who are already identified: Obama and Pope Francis) can be activated by Satan, so they'll fulfil prophesy.

    God-JESUS is in control and He be with us!

    Hans, from the Netherlands

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  6. +preppy187
    We just refuse to believe (on Biblical grounds) that God is so mad at us that we should deserve His wrath during the coming tribulation/Jakob's Trouble.

    HE LOVES US, and He's going to take us to His realm, out of reach of Satan and his two beasts.
    See you there, brother, and the Lord JESUS be with us.

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  7. This religious piece of CRAP comes from here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/11346675/Book-Snatched-Away-the-Rapture

    The author betrayed himself through this sentence: "144,000 from the tribes of
    spiritual
    Israel (not Israel of the flesh)"

    THIS MAN IS A LIAR!

    Gentiles want to STEAL God's promises for God's BELOVED and CHOSEN people, from them!

    JESUS is a JEW!

    He's going to rescue a REMNANT of His OWN chosen people, when He returns!

    This will be ONE THIRD: Zechariah 13:8-9
    http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Zechariah+13%3A8-9&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

    Why do gentiles want to commit this CRIME?

    Because they have been poisoned by FALSE teachers who (have been) preach(ing) the REPLACEMENT theology!

    There is NO 'replacement' of God's CHOSEN people!

    God's CHOSEN people is STILL God's CHOSEN people and the Body of Christ JESUS is a separate entity!

    Read Romans 11.

    The Rapture has NOTHING to do with ANY kind of sign or Jewish feast!

    It will happen SUDDENLY in the near future, to those who are like the wise virgins and who are always ready to go.

    Dear Shea, please read this article by our deceased brother Jack Kinsella, and I ENVY him that he's no longer being plagued by stupid discussions about pre-trib, mid-trib or post trib-scenarios and that he's NOT dead, but ASLEEP in the realm of our Lord JESUS, while he's awaiting the resurrection of the deceased born again believers in Jesus Christ, to be able to be part of that same rapture in the near future: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/03/the-rapture-of-church-by-jack-kinsella.html

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  8. +Benny Morris
    Yes, you are dead wrong!

    God will provide the evidence after you've been left behind.

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  9. JESUS didn't start a 'church'.
    The word 'church' is a Catholic invention.

    JESUS started the Body of Christ, which is a living organism, and not a human organisation.

    Bible translaters translated the Greek word for 'assembly' with the wrong word 'church'.

    The Satanic Vatican is behind this, because Satan loves to give people the association with church BUILDINGS and human made RELIGION and "Christianity".

    Satan is the initiator of 'Christendom'.

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  10. +SheaSheaOnUrTUBE
    Dear Shea, I know you haven't made this video, and though I agree with the main issue that our Lord Jesus is coming, and that people should repent and believe in JESUS
    , I disagree with many things that are being put forward in this video.
    This is better information, and I'm eager to hear what you think about it: http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_rapture7.php

    <3JESUS<3
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    Hans S
    3 seconds ago

    +Hans S
    I also didn't agree with the explanation of 2 THESSALONIANS 2:3 in this video: IS THE RAPTURE IN 2 THESSALONIANS 2:3? http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

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  11. +Shin Ryu
    Anti-pre-tribulation-rapture believers are grumpy and very JEALOUS!

    I'm not appointed to God's WRATH!

    He doesn't want to DESTROY ME!

    God-JESUS doesn't HATE me!

    He's going to take me away BEFORE His wrath will be poured out on earth and the pre-trib-rapture is BIBLICAL, and every anti-pre-trib-rapture opponent is deceived by the enemy, who loves to KILL them during the coming tribulation.

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  12. +Shin Ryu That's the WRONG translation:
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

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  13. +Adam 1984
    We don't agree on this.

    The Bible is a JEWISH book, and God is a JEW, and JESUS is coming back to Jerusalem and not to Washington or any other world capital.
    The Roman Catholic CULT is the origin of the replacement theology, claiming that the 'church' has replaced the role of God's chosen people.
    The Roman Catholic CULT (as always) LIES!
    Israel is still God's chosen people and after the pre-tribulation rapture (in which you don't believe) God will continue with His rescue plan, concerning Israel and a REMNANT thereof (one third).
    The pre-tribulation rapture is Biblical: PROOFS OF THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE http://prophecy.landmarkbiblebaptist.net/rapture-proofs.html

    Nevertheless: JESUS be with us!

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  14. And all based on the WRONG translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

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  15. Again and again based on the WRONG translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (KJV)

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

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  16. +WeAreONEbigFamily is Back
    Ik waardeer Eric Jon Phelps, maar ik luister niet naar hem aangaande de pre-tribulatie opname
    want zonder de pre-trib opname kunnen- en mogen de 2 beesten van Openbaring 13 zich niet eens openbaren omdat ze tegen gehouden worden door de Heilige Geest in de ware volgelingen van Jezus.
    Eric Jon Phelps is een echte Yank die rustig een medemens overhoop schiet als het hem zo uitkomt, ook al zegt Jezus dat wie bij het zwaard leeft, door het zwaard zal omkomen, en dat we (zelfs) onze vijanden lief moeten hebben.
    Dat gaat nogal slecht als je hem of haar een kogel door zijn of haar kop schiet of hem of haar met een bijl de harses inslaat.
    Bovendien draagt hij een visie op rassenscheiding uit die ik niet deel, want er is maar één ras: het menselijke ras.
    Hij is bang dat het 'blanke ras' verloren zal gaan, terwijl Jezus zelf helemaal geen blanke was, maar een kleurling, en Jezus is toevallig ook nog eens God almachtig.
    Blanken zijn gewoon opgebleekte kleurlingen, en hij moet niet zo eng denken, want dat schrikt gekleurde medemensen af.
    Mensen die graag de martelaar willen uithangen gedurende de komende grote verdrukking wens ik veel sterkte toe.
    Ik weet wat het is om met de dood bedreigd te worden en ik ben voor de duivel niet bang.
    Degene die me in de eerste plaats met de dood bedreigt is overigens niet de duivel of mensen, maar God zelf, want die heeft me sterfelijk gemaakt en iedereen.
    Dat deed Hij niet zonder reden, want omdat we van onze voorouders Adam en Eva afstammen zijn we van nature allemaal criminelen, en iemand die beter denkt te zijn dan een ander, is de grootste crimineel.

    Ik heb gemerkt dat het modieus geworden is onder bepaalde gelovigen om het geloof in de pre-tribulatie opname op te geven of zelfs agressief aan te vallen, en als ik in de stemming ben dan kan ik dat andersom ook en maak ik van ieders post-tribulatie opname doctrine gehakt.

    Alberto Rivera was een voormalige katholiek en een Jezuïtische priester en die had weinig tot geen liefde voor het Joodse volk, en daarom snapte hij geen bal van het aparte plan dat God heeft met het lichaam van Christus ten opzichte van het overblijfsel van Israël dat JEZUS gaat redden aan het eind van de tijd van Jakobs benauwdheid, wat ook wel de 'grote verdrukking' wordt genoemd, maar wat de heiden-gelovigen in Jezus vooral op zichzelf betrekken, 'dankzij' de eeuwenoude Roomse leugen van de vervangingsleer, alsof 'de kerk' in de plaats van Gods uitverkoren volk zou zijn gekomen, wat absolute waanzin is.

    Als ik bepaalde mensen mag geloven dan zou Israël vooral het product zijn van de duivel(se Jezuïeten), alsof God daar helemaal niets mee te maken zou hebben: WAANZIN!

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  17. God is de baas en Hij gebruikt de ijdele plannen van satan en mensen om tot zijn doel te kunnen komen.

    De Jezuïeten denken dat ze slim zijn, maar ze werken samen met satan aan hun eigen ondergang mee.

    Maar waarom zou ik me vermoeien met argumenteren tegen mensen die graag hun kop eraf gehakt willen hebben door de antichrist?

    Sommigen denken nog steeds dat ze via een martelaarsdood de eeuwigheid bij Jezus verdienen kunnen.

    Waarom gaan ze dan nu al niet naar een extreem moslimland of naar het Vaticaan en zeggen ze niet dat Mohammed (onder meer) een smerige leugenaar en een pedo was en dat de Paus (onder meer) een vieze gore pedo is, en dat alleen een ware overgave aan Jezus Christus redding brengt, en dat de Roomse kerk de ware satanskerk is en de islam een hoerendochter van die kerk is, en dat alle niet wedergeboren katholieken en moslims zullen branden in de vuurpoel?

    Dan kunnen ze nu reeds afgeslacht worden en 'punten verdienen' om toegang te kunnen krijgen tot de eeuwige zaligheid.

    Post-tribbers zitten elkaar allemaal angst aan te praten en ondertussen denken ze dat ze steun aan elkaar hebben als de hel op aarde losbreekt.

    Ik geef geen klap om de liefde van broeders en zusters, want als het puntje bij paaltje komt laten ze je fijn in de steek.

    Geef mij maar JEZUS, want die gaf om me toen helemaal niemand dat deed.

    Lees hier wat ik er verder van denk: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

    En nogmaals: hoe heet je, want als je niet eens bereid bent je (voor)naam te noemen, hoe denk je dan tijdens de grote verdrukking staande te kunnen blijven?

    Ik vind je niet oprecht, want je wist heus wel dat ik een pre-tribber ben, en dat standpunt vind je maar dom.

    Als je het dan zo met Eric Jon Phelps eens bent, dan wijs je vooral ook op degene die alleen redding brengt: JEZUS Christus, want dat doet Eric wel en Alan Lamont ook, ook al ben ik het ook met Alan niet eens aangaande de pre-post-tribulatie opname.

    We kunnen helemaal niemand redden, maar al zou er maar één zijn die gaat nadenken over de tijd waarin we leven en die daaruit conclusies trekt om naar JEZUS te vluchten, dan is dat al winst, want wie één mens redt die redt (wat die mens betreft) de hele wereld.

    Wie verloren gaat of wie zich van kant maakt, die vernietigt (wat die mens betreft) de hele wereld.

    Het gaat er niet om dat er een duivel is die mensen mee wil trekken naar zijn eigen ondergang, en dat hij zich bedient van het duivelse Vaticaan, maar dat mensen gaan inzien dat ze beter niet in de handen van de levende God kunnen vallen als ze Hem ongevallig zijn door voorbij te zijn gegaan aan JEZUS, Gods alter ego.

    God wil ons redden van zijn EIGEN VRESELIJKE TOORN!

    En Hij heeft vaak zat bewezen dat Hij in staat is om die toorn te laten gaan, zoals tijdens de zondvloed, toen Hij na 120 jaar geduld te hebben gehad, de hele duivelse mensheid liet verdrinken van zo'n zes miljard mensen, op Noach en de zijnen na.

    Wees niet onder de indruk van satan en zijn aardse trawanten, maar van God-JEZUS zelf!

    Ik waardeer het wel dat je aandacht besteed aan de mechanismen achter het kwaad en zie deze reactie niet als afwijzing en boosheid, maar als een verlangen naar echtheid onder mensen die schijnbaar of blijkbaar hetzelfde nastreven.

    Een hele simpele vraag: hou jij ook van JEZUS Christus?

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  18. +Billthesheepdog
    Obama's an evil puppet, that's right, but you've got to see him change after Satan has decided to live inside his brain.

    This can only happen after the rapture, but people who don't believe in the pre-tribulation rapture are without a clue about the time we're living in.
    That's because of the WRONG translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 in the KJV: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (KJV)

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

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  19. +WeAreONEbigFamily is Back
    Kijk, nu ben je duidelijk, want JEZUS Christus is iemand die je respecteert
    , maar Hij is nog niet jouw HEER, omdat je nog niet beseft dat Hij God was 'in het vlees' om zijn leven te geven voor ons allemaal, vanwege onze zonden (ongehoorzaamheid aan God).
    Wie Hem erkent als HEER en als redder, die gaat helemaal niet door de 'grote verdrukking', maar zal kort daarvoor worden opgenomen, waarna de duivel voor zeven jaar middels zijn Vaticaanse NWO zijn terreur op aarde zal gaan uitoefenen, wat hij nu deels ook al doet, maar waarin hij wordt gefrustreerd door allen die echt van JEZUS houden en in wie de Heilige Geest is uitgestort.
    Je hoeft van mij niets aan te nemen, want ik ben je schepper niet, maar ik raad je wel aan om naar JEZUS te luisteren, want Hij is je schepper WEL.
    JEZUS houdt van je, maar besef dat satan je graag verloren ziet gaan, want iedere ziel die hij van God af kan pakken is zijn wraak op God-JEZUS die hem in de toekomst in de (bovennatuurlijke en eeuwige) poel van vuur zal werpen.

    Daarom houdt satan er ook van om via zijn Vaticaanse aardse slaven, mensen letterlijk in vlammen te zien opgaan, zoals tijdens de inquisitie, en ook tijdens de Holocaust, en niet alleen door Hitler maar ook door Stalin, die miljoenen liet levend verbranden, waar weinigen van weten.

    Sterven middels verbranding is vreselijk, maar het duurt maar even in vergelijking tot het voor altijd moeten zijn in de poel van vuur, hetgeen Gods toorn is: Wie in de Zoon gelooft, heeft eeuwig leven; doch wie aan de Zoon ongehoorzaam is, zal het leven niet zien, maar de toorn Gods blijft op hem. Johannes 3,36 http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?q=Gods+toorn+is&idq=17&l=nl&set=10&q1=1&qall=1&qids=ffffffffffffffffff3f

    Durf vandaag nog een besluit te nemen om een volgeling van JEZUS te zijn.

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  20. +WeAreONEbigFamily is Back
    Iedereen die van harte van de Heer JEZUS Christus houdt
    , en die wedergeboren is, beschouw ik als mijn broeder of zuster in het geloof, of men nu wel of niet veel kennis heeft van de intriges van satan en zijn Vaticaans-Jezuïtische Nieuwe Wereld Orde.
    Ik ben het met deze broeder ONEENS aangaande de opname, maar hij houdt echt van JEZUS en dat maakt hem een medegelovige van mij.
    Als we vandaag allebei sterven is die hele discussie over de opname irrelevant.
    Het is dus geen hoofdzaak, en ook niet de onthullingen over het Vaticaan en de Jezuïeten, want de ware vijand is satan, die wel de Vaticaans-Jezuïetische NWO gebruikt in een poging om tot zijn doel te komen, waarin hij jammerlijk zal falen, want JEZUS Christus komt terug om satan te verslaan en om de Vaticaans-Jezuïtische NWO te VERNIETIGEN.

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  21. +TIME IS SHORT PEOPLE
    I'm a follower of JESUS Christ for over 30 years now
    , and from the onset I've been an adherent of the pre-tribulation rapture teaching, and I see no reason to change that stance, because the pre-trib-rapture is Biblical, but many people are misinformed about it and think it's not Biblical.
    Arguing about it is pointless, but if people want to be informed, they can check this out: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  22. +jsteele650
    Believers in JESUS who don't (or can't) believe in the pre-tribulation rapture are constantly worried about what's going to happen
    (in their view) instead of being confident that JESUS = God hasn't BAD INTENTIONS (we're not appointed to WRATH 1 Thessalonians 5:9) toward His Body of Christ (many times wrongly called 'the church', while the word 'church' should be the word 'assembly', and when talking about the world wide assemblies of Christ it should be 'the Body of Christ', because the word 'church' is a Roman Catholic invention and a wrong translation of the Greek word that means 'assembly').

    Many believers in JESUS Christ are contaminated by the ROMAN CATHOLIC FALSE REPLACEMENT theology, which claims that 'the church' had replaced God's JEWISH chosen people, but the replacement theology is SATANIC.

    I always test whether so called teachers really represent JESUS Christ by responding directly to them, and Anita FAILED to respond to me, giving me the impression she's thinking she's far too important compared to me, which is nonsense within the Body of Christ, because all members are equally important to God-JESUS, apart from the issue whether a woman is allowed to preach and teach.

    The WORD of God is clear about this, though a female believer in JESUS Christ is allowed to preach toward the UNBELIEVERS or toward fellow female believers in JESUS Christ.

    I love Anita too, because she's a fellow believer in our Lord and Savior JESUS Christ, but believers like her ATTACK the Biblical believe in the pre-tribulation rapture, and this has become RAMPANT among a lot of believers, based also on a WRONG translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3

    Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (King James Bible)

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    Anita's videos are interesting, when she bringing real NEWs, but I don't listen to her when she's telling me that we're going through the tribulation, because that's what Satan likes to hear, because he wants to murder ALL believers in JESUS Christ, while I know that at the moment the Holy Spirit within all real and born again believers in JESUS Christ is RESTRAINING Satan and his VATICAN (Jesuit) New World Order.

    Satan will take control of the two BEASTS of Revelation 13 AFTER the rapture, and I believe these two CRIMINALS are Pope Francis and 'Obama' (Barry Davis).

    Because I believe these two CROOKS are identified, I believe the rapture is IMMINENT!

    This is a cause for JOY and NOT a reason to be worried, which all the mid-trib and post-trib believers seem to be.

    They believe they're appointed to WRATH, becasuse it seems to me they try to 'earn heaven' by being a martyr during the coming tribulation, based on the satanic replacement theology.

    Read more this on my site: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  23. Anita, when you claim that the pre-tribulation rapture was never preached by the early ASSEMBLY (not 'church', which is a Roman Catholic word) you're giving FALSE INFORMATION.

    You are the umpteenth believer in Christ Jesus who doesn't understand why the PRE-tribulation rapture is NECESSARY and ESSENTIAL in light of the prophetic word.

    It's my experience it's useless to argue with ANTI-pre-tribulation believers, but in case you want to be CORRECTED by God=JESUS you're being invited to read this: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/03/the-rapture-of-church-by-jack-kinsella.html

    I'm glad you're not a follower of Satan, but a follower of JESUS, but anyone who's attacking the pre-tribulation rapture on the basis of FALSE TEACHINGS I will attack, and I'm attacking you right now, because you are MISLEADING followers in JESUS and 'babes in Christ'.

    I'm not attacking you personally, but your doctrine, which is FALSE!

    STOP THIS NONSENSE!

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  24. +Aussie warrior
    WHAT NONSENSE!

    The pre-tribulation rapture is ESSENTIAL in light of the prophetic word.
    nikki72464 is right!
    And you are WRONG about this issue.
    Don't you DARE to call the pre-tribulation rapture a 'cunning lie'.
    Rapture under attack!
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  25. +VerifiedNews So you claim to be a better Bible reader than a fellow believer in JESUS Christ?

    ANTI-pre-tribulation rapture DECEIVERS are always attacking HAPPY pre-tribulation rapture believers because they think they MUST earn heaven by SUFFERING and MARTYRDOM.

    Anti-pre-tribulation-rapture believers are grumpy and very JEALOUS!
    I'm not appointed to God's WRATH!

    He doesn't want to DESTROY ME!

    God-JESUS doesn't HATE me!

    He's going to take me away BEFORE His wrath will be poured out on earth and the pre-trib-rapture is BIBLICAL, and every anti-pre-trib-rapture opponent is deceived by the enemy, who loves to KILL them during the coming tribulation.
    Hans S
    1:29 PM




    +Sue W
    I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture and we're NOT called to fight but to LOVE our ENEMIES, because we all used to be ENEMIES of God ourselves!!!


    Romans 3,10


    EVERYONE IS a (forgiven) CRIMINAL in the eyes of God!

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  26. +Eunice W JESUS says: LOVE your enemies!
    Believers in JESUS aren't better people than unbelievers!

    Sometimes they are even WORSE than unbelievers.
    I'm glad I don't depend on the 'love' of 'Christians' but only on the love and mercy of God-JESUS!

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  27. +J Wing Read this http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html?showComment=1402486283434#c1591057925495629415

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  28. +Joshua the Humble Servant
    I don't call you a false prophet
    , because JESUS wants me to LOVE my fellow believers in Him, but your information is WRONG: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html
    Hans S
    6:27 PM




    +MJBB33
    Amen!

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  29. And you know this already for centuries?
    Come on, use your common sense!

    Why hasn't the tribulation yet begun, and why are BOTH the Antichrist and the False Prophet not yet been revealed, though we may believe that we've identified at least one of them (the Pope) and I believe the other one too: SATAN OBAMA?

    I've heard people say that the Vatican itself is the 'restrainer'...why should Satan restrain himself?
    That's ridiculous!

    Satan is like a WILD BEAST and a PSYCHOPATH, and he's a very powerful fallen angel.
    The only one who's able to restrain him is JESUS Christ, through God's Holy Spirit, and through God's TRUE beloved on earth and (the remnant of) Israel.

    As soon as the Holy Spirit has been taken away, INCLUDING the born again, Holy Spirit filled believers in Jesus Christ, the LAWLESS ONE will take full control of this world, which isn't yet the case.

    The rapture is in the Bible, but CROOKS have been MESSING with the translation:

    Believers in JESUS who don't (or can't) believe in the pre-tribulation rapture are constantly worried about what's going to happen (in their view) instead of being confident that JESUS = God hasn't BAD INTENTIONS (we're not appointed to WRATH 1 Thessalonians 5:9) toward His Body of Christ (many times wrongly called 'the church', while the word 'church' should be the word 'assembly', and when talking about the world wide assemblies of Christ it should be 'the Body of Christ', because the word 'church' is a Roman Catholic invention and a wrong translation of the Greek word that means 'assembly').

    Many believers in JESUS Christ are contaminated by the ROMAN CATHOLIC FALSE REPLACEMENT theology, which claims that 'the church' had replaced God's JEWISH chosen people, but the replacement theology is SATANIC.

    I always test whether so called teachers really represent JESUS Christ by responding directly to them, and Anita FAILED to respond to me, giving me the impression she's thinking she's far too important compared to me, which is nonsense within the Body of Christ, because all members are equally important to God-JESUS, apart from the issue whether a woman is allowed to preach and teach.

    The WORD of God is clear about this, though a female believer in JESUS Christ is allowed to preach toward the UNBELIEVERS or toward fellow female believers in JESUS Christ.

    I love Anita too, because she's a fellow believer in our Lord and Savior JESUS Christ, but believers like her ATTACK the Biblical believe in the pre-tribulation rapture, and this has become RAMPANT among a lot of believers, based also on a WRONG translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3

    Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (King James Bible)

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  30. This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    Anita's videos are interesting, when she bringing real NEWs, but I don't listen to her when she's telling me that we're going through the tribulation, because that's what Satan likes to hear, because he wants to murder ALL believers in JESUS Christ, while I know that at the moment the Holy Spirit within all real and born again believers in JESUS Christ is RESTRAINING Satan and his VATICAN (Jesuit) New World Order.

    Satan will take control of the two BEASTS of Revelation 13 AFTER the rapture, and I believe these two CRIMINALS are Pope Francis and 'Obama' (Barry Davis).

    Because I believe these two CROOKS are identified, I believe the rapture is IMMINENT!

    This is a cause for JOY and NOT a reason to be worried, which all the mid-trib and post-trib believers seem to be.

    They believe they're appointed to WRATH, becasuse it seems to me they try to 'earn heaven' by being a martyr during the coming tribulation, based on the satanic replacement theology.

    Read more about this on my site: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  31. +dockidds
    A big fat AMEN!

    The pre-tribulation rapture MUST take place, because it's prophetically necessary!

    JESUS be with us!

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  32. +DOLPHINSDARYL DARYL
    Are you talking to me?
    I'm Dutch and I read in my mother's tongue.

    The KJV is a good translation, but it's not infallible and then I compare it with the World English Bible.

    This is a good example of a comparison between the KJV and the WEB, and in this case I choose the WEB-translation, because the rapture is in the New Testament, but that's unclear if one's reading the KJV or other English translations, and all Dutch translations are also wrong concerning this verse: 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (KJV)

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

    In SEVEN English translations, prior to the KJV 1611 the Greek word 'apostasia' was translated RIGHT, by the word DEPARTURE, and NOT by the words 'a falling away'.

    Some IDIOT was used by the devil to CHANGE 'DEPARTURE' into 'A FALLING AWAY'.

    Again: SEVEN translations pror to the KJV translated 'apostasia' CORRECTLY with the word DEPARTURE.

    THE RAPTURE IS IN THE BIBLE AND SATAN DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW!

    Jesus be with us!
    Maranatha!

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  33. Two third of the Jewish people will turn out not to be interested in their own God and their own Messiah (JESUS-Yeshua), so they will accept ANY IDIOT who'll pretend to be their 'Savior'.
    The Pope of Rome (Francis) is this IDIOT and 'Obama' is the executor of the Vatican.
    They are the two BEASTS.
    Something else: increasingly believers in Jesus Christ think that JESUS is a WIFE-BEATER, who wants to PUNISH His bride/wife during the coming tribulation.
    They want to be martyrs and earn a place in heaven, and they are no longer willing to believe in the BIBLICAL pre-tribulalation RAPTURE, while the pre-trib-rapture is IN THE BIBLE!

    OH YEAH?

    YES!

    Rapture under attack!
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  34. The pre-tribulation RAPTURE is as old as the Body of Christ JESUS and it's NOT an invention of the JESUITS.

    They've hijacked this knowledge in order to spread CONFUSION!

    The 70 weeks of Daniel chapter 11 aren't yet fulfilled and ONLY God knows in WHAT YEAR Jesus was being born.

    Why should I trust you when your last name is 'Pope'?

    You called my brother Paul Kidd a Jesuit trained DECEIVER, but you didn't provide EVIDENCE.

    Who are you following: Alberto Rivera or JESUS Christ?

    I'm DISGUSTED by so called 'Christians' who are as EVIL as unbelievers and who HATE each other!!

    ONLY those who believe AS A CHILD will enter heaven!

    People who think they're 'important' will be left out.

    WHY DO YOU ATTACK the pre-tribulation-rapture teaching?

    Do you want to EARN heaven by being a MARTYR during the coming tribulation?

    I've experienced LIFE-THREATENING situations as a follower of JESUS and I'm NOT afraid to suffer and die, if needed.

    The pre-tribulation-rapture is NOT an escape!

    It is a prophetic necessity!

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  35. Alberto Rivera was right about MANY things but he was WRONG about the pre-tribulation rapture, being a former Catholic and Catholics don't love the JEWS!

    JESUS is a JEW and the WHOLE Bible is JEWISH and it can only be understood by means of the JEWISH MIND and SPIRIT of JESUS and He is God.

    The satanic Jesuits couldn't foretell that Israel would be re-established by God in 1947/1948, and this fact is a key argument for the believe in the Rapture, seven years BEFORE the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to His Land and His People, because The Lord Jesus Christ is a Jew!

    All believers in Jesus Christ should make a distinction between God's plan with Israel and with His congregation of Holy Spirit-filled-believers. The Rapture is all about the removal of the Holy Spirit, INCLUDING the real worshippers of Christ Jesus, before the emergence of the antichrist. This is necessary because of the fulfillment of the prophecies. The antichrist will NOT appear before the rapture has taken place, SEVEN years prior to JESUS' second coming.

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html?showComment=1405820742853#c462161094687078426

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  36. +Anthony Pope
    Paul Begley is follower of Jesus with whom I disagree on several issues, but NOT about the MAIN issue: JESUS CHRIST.


    Paul Kidd is a follower of JESUS who firmly believes in the prophetic necessity of the pre-tribulation rapture, you don't believe in, because you believe it's a SATANIC LIE.

    CONGRATULATIONS, because Satan also says that the pre-tribulation rapture is a LIE, BECAUSE HE WANTS TO SLAUGHTER ALL BELIEVERS IN JESUS CHRIST!

    ALL OF THEM!

    HE HATES God-JESUS and you and me and everyone!

    I'm an EX-ATHEIST!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

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  37. +Anthony Pope
    I'm not a follower of ANY mortal CRIMINAL!

    EVERYONE IS A CRMINAL, who's LOST without JESUS Christ.
    I DON'T TRUST ANYONE...not even my 'own' WIFE!

    I ONLY trust JESUS!

    He's helping me to filter out what's wrong and to keep what's right.

    ALL PEOPLE ARE SPLIT PERSONALITIES!

    We all have TWO hemispheres in our heads, and who's doing the talking?

    The LEFT hemisphere or the RIGHT?

    ONLY children and animals aren't SPLIT personalities.

    BEFORE my surrender to JESUS someone called me 'JESUS HITLER' and that was correct: I could be VERY nice and VERY EVIL!

    So DON'T TRUST ME!

    TRUST JESUS Christ alone!

    I'm NOT a 'Christian'!

    I NEVER want to become a 'Christian' and I HATE 'christianity'!


    I'm a FOLLOWER of JESUS Christ and I was LOST but now I'm FOUND

    Satan is so DISGUSTED by me that he NEVER wants to have me back under his influence!

    PRAISE JESUS for that!

    To hell with the devil!

    To hell with stupid RELIGION!

    LOST without JESUS Christ!

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  38. +Anthony Pope
    JESUS said this to His JEWISH disciples, concerning the time of the tribulation, before His coming.


    Read the Bible with JEWISH eyes, because JESUS is a JEW!

    The Rapture is NOT the second coming (in advance): it's a MIRACLE which can best be compared with the rapture of Enoch.

    It's a necessity, because the Holy Spirit within the Body of Christ is RESTRAINING the devil at the moment.

    Satan can't go any further with is evil plans because of the POWER of the Holy Spirit.

    GOD IS IN CONTROL!

    JESUS is GOD!

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  39. +Dennis Bolan
    I'm so glad I'm not a "Christian", but an ex-atheist who was saved by JESUS and who made me a follower of Him ONLY.


    You want to be a martyr?

    Then you'll become a martyr, because you'll receive what you believe.

    The rapture isn't for you, because you want to be around when the Antichrist will be revealed.

    The pre-tribulation rapture teaching (not an 'idea') is as old as the BODY of Christ (not the 'church', which is a Roman Catholic word), but you don't believe that.

    So believe what you want and be left behind and hopefully you'll remain a believer in Crist JESUS.

    It's not forbidden to believe in all kinds of NONSENSE!

    Only CHILDREN will enter heaven....

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  40. Your views are based on the antisemitic (Catholic) replacement theology
    , which says that 'the church' (a WRONG word, because it's the Body of Christ) has 'replaced' God's chosen people, which is absolutely FALSE, because God is not finished yet with HIS people.

    The first Protestants had the same antisemitic view.

    This replacement theology is a CANCER and the CAUSE for the MURDER of MILLIONS of JEWS in the past AND it will be the cause for the MISERY the JEWS will have to endure in the (near) future.

    Satan HATES the Jews, because his maker is JESUS and JESUS is a JEW , and He is God.

    Many people HATE the FACT that God is a JEW, because they are Jew-haters themselves, and hate equals MURDER!

    I don't say you hate the Jews, but I do say this view of yours is not right!

    The 70th week of Daniel 9 is still UNFULFILLED, but I'm sure you don't believe me, because you rather believer a former Roman Catholic (Alberto Rivera) who was never being taught about the importance of the Jewish people concerning the prophetic word.

    Alberto Rivera revealed a lot of truths about the Satanic Vatican and the Roman Catholic CULT, but he didn't have much love for the Jewish people.

    Love for the Jewish people comes from JESUS Himself, because He's a Jew, and He will NEVER forget about His OWN people!

    NEVER!

    The story of Joseph and his brothers is PROPHETIC and relates to JESUS concerning His people and a REMNANT thereof.

    When will NON-JEWS finally learn that God's plan of salvation is BASED on His love for His own people!

    Whosoever doesn't love God's chosen people, doesn't really know JESUS the Christ, Yeshua HaMashiach!

    Opposing views: Continuing Counter Reformation http://continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.nl/2008/12/jesuitical-futurism-left-behind.html
    Hans S
    7:57 AM




    DANIEL’S 70th WEEK http://www.biblebookofrevelation.com/appendix_B.htm
    Hans S
    7:58 AM




    250 REASONS FOR PRE-TRIB RAPTURE http://www.jesusisthecomingking.com/2011/03/250-reasons-for-pre-trib-rapture.html
    Hans S
    8:03 AM




    Proofs Of The Pre-Tribulation Rapture http://prophecy.landmarkbiblebaptist.net/rapture-proofs.html
    Hans S
    8:04 AM




    The Pretribulation Rapture Has Been Taught Throughout Christian History http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer%27s%20Corner/Doctrines/rapture_history.htm

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  41. Great article and thank you very much.
    JESUS be with us, Sister!


    Hans from the Netherlands.

    Rapture under attack! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  42. I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture AND I believe that the Papacy is the Antichrist, so in my case 'Jesuit futurism' had not the effect of anticipating a future mysterious 'Antichrist', while the true Antichrist is already known: the Pope!

    JESUS be with us.

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  43. +Dennis Bolan
    Your view STINKS!

    But that's your 'Christian-religious' ARROGANCE!
    But believe what you want.
    You sow CONFUSION, but not to me!

    ========
    Your views are based on the antisemitic (Catholic) replacement theology, which says that 'the church' (a WRONG word, because it's the Body of Christ) has 'replaced' God's chosen people, which is absolutely FALSE, because God is not finished yet with HIS people.

    Source: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html?showComment=1405923025553#c7422577567562268091

    Now, you also believe in JESUS Christ.

    I don't hate you and JESUS commands me to love you, and that's why I'm telling you, you're WRONG!

    No, go on and ATTACK other HAPPY believers in the re-tribulation rapture, who believe that JESUS is NOT a WIFE-BEATER!

    He's NOT going to MURDER His own BODY by means of the 2 SATANIC BEASTS!

    I'm always willing to die for Him, but NOT during the coming WRATH of God=JESUS!

    That's for the believers who aren't yet born again and who are NOT like the WISE VIRGINS.

    They will be left behind and they'll get a FINAL CHANCE.

    Not a 'second chance', but a LAST OPPORTUNITY to be saved, though most of them will be beheaded, because the Bible says so.

    Yet: JESUS be with us.

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  44. Ik wacht niet daarop want ik geloof in de pre-tribulatie-opname.
    JEZUS gaat zijn Lichaam van Christus niet laten afslachten door die twee satanische debielen, de valse profeet en de antichrist.

    De leer van de pre-tribulatie opname is veel ouder dan wat die satanische Jezuïetische schoft van een Ribera ons wil laten geloven vanuit zijn graf.

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html?showComment=1405923025553#c7422577567562268091

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  45. +Dennis Bolan
    OMG...
    Please watch this: Discerning The Trumpets (Revelation 1:8-10) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt87fd1ep9Q&r=1

    I pray this helps :-P

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  46. +de b
    You don't have to say 'sorry'....BE GLAD you believe in the pre-tribulation rapture, because it's BIBLICAL and necessary!


    Unfortunately a lot of believers don't believe in the pre-tribulation rapture anymore, and they really believe JESUS is a 'WIFE-BEATER', who will use the two satanic beasts of Revelation 13 in order to prosecute and SLAUGHTER His bride.

    Of course I'm exaggerating, but I want to point out how serious this FALLACY is.

    Satan does NOT want us to be HAPPY: he wants us to be full of anxiety in regard to the coming tribulation.

    BUT...we are NOT appointed to God's WRATH and the tribulation is NOT meant to be for JESUS' BRIDE!

    So, I'm glad for you, you believe in the "pre-trib", sister!

    The Rapture of the Church http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/03/the-rapture-of-church-by-jack-kinsella.html

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  47. +Matt White
    You're right that there are NOT YET a functioning Antichrist
    and a False Prophet, because there's still a STRONGER FORCE on earth than the power of Satan, WHO (He's a person: God=JESUS) is RESTRAINING the two beasts of Revelation 13: the HOLY SPIRIT.

    As soon as the Holy Spirit will be SUDDENLY taken away (as SUDDEN as He was being poured out, almost 2000 years ago), INCLUDING the BORN AGAIN, Holy Spirit filled followers of JESUS Christ (both deceased and alive), the two beasts will be activated as such by Satan.

    I do believe that the two beasts have been identified: Pope Francis and 'Obama'.

    The Rapture is the trigger for the upcoming prophetic events, which are the Psalm 83 war en de subsequent Ezekiel 38-39 war, which are related to Israel and not to the Body of Christ.

    The rapture will start the last year-week of Daniel 9, which is all about Israel.

    At the end of this 'week' JESUS Christ will return.
    Hans S
    2:54 AM




    +Annie Oakley
    You talk about believers and I talk about BORN AGAIN, Holy Spirit filled followers of JESUS Christ, with the character of the WISE virgins.

    God has not appointed the Body of Christ to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord JESUS Christ.

    JESUS Christ is NOT a SADISTIC WIFE-BEATER!

    God-JESUS is not angry at His true worshippers, waho are longing to be with Him, but at those who don't love Him and those who are lukewarm and religious.

    These people will be left behind, because they don't have the character of the wise virgins and not the character of Enoch.

    There are believers who think they have to EARN heaven by being a martyr during the coming tribulation.

    They don't read the Bible correctly, because the coming tribulation has mainly to with ISRAEL.

    They don't see that God is a JEW: JESUS Christ.

    The rapture is in the Bible, but some CRIMINAL translator translated 2 Thessalonians 2:3 WRONG:

    This is a good example of a comparison between the KJV and the WEB, and in this case I choose the WEB-translation, because the rapture is in the New Testament, but that's unclear if one's reading the KJV or other English translations, and all Dutch translations are also wrong concerning this verse: 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (KJV)

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

    In SEVEN English translations, prior to the KJV 1611 the Greek word 'apostasia' was translated RIGHT, by the word DEPARTURE, and NOT by the words 'a falling away'.

    Some IDIOT was used by the devil to CHANGE 'DEPARTURE' into 'A FALLING AWAY'.

    Again: SEVEN translations pror to the KJV translated 'apostasia' CORRECTLY with the word DEPARTURE.

    THE RAPTURE IS IN THE BIBLE AND SATAN DOESN'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW!

    Jesus be with us!
    Maranatha!

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  48. +Adam 1984
    The tribulation is about Israel, God's chosen people and country.

    The Bible is a Jewish book, and God is a Jew: JESUS.
    People who don't see this aren't able to discern that God is going to judge the world through His people and country Israel.
    The prophetic word is about Israel and JESUS is coming back to Jerusalem.

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  49. +James Lundberg
    O man what nonsense!

    The satanic 'replacement theology' is responsible for this confusion.

    You really don't realise that the tribulation is God's WRATH!

    The Body of Christ (and I'm not talking about non-born again "Christians", but about born again followers of JESUS) is still on earth, restraining Satan and his demons, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

    The Bible is a JEWISH book from cover to cover, and many non-Jewish believers in Jesus Christ and the Bible still don't fully understand this fact.

    Jesus is coming back for a remnant of His people after a seven year period of tribulation, which is also a judgment upon the world, because many non-Jews HATE God's people, and many so called believers in Jesus don't LOVE His people because they are misled by the satanic Vatican and its Jesuits who use treacherous Papal Jews in influential positions, like Shimon Peres, with the aim to put the blame on ALL the Jews, as they have done so many times before, which resulted in the Holocaust.

    The time of Jacob's Trouble, or the tribulation is about Israel, because Jacob is Israel.

    People who believe they have to go through the tribulation aren't longing to be with JESUS, and they seem to like to live in a world with Satan, or they think they can earn heaven by becoming a martyr.

    I envy all my deceased brothers and sisters in Christ JESUS, because they aren't any longer being bothered by this stupid debate about the rapture.

    You don't believe there will be a pre-tribulation rapture?

    You'll receive what you believe!

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  50. +James Lundberg
    Oh come on! The Jews THEMSELVES translates the name Yeshua into iésous, which became JESUS in English
    . http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/spl_ChristOrMessiah.htm

    With the same force you're trying to demonize me, by saying that believers in the pre-tribulation rapture are adherents of a satanic doctrine, I COULD say that opponents of the pre-tribulation rapture are satanic Christians, who love to be around when God will pour out His wrath upon this satanic world.

    The Kingdom of God is for little children and not for EX-children who think they are so important and indispensable.

    Big egos will not enter heaven, but instead; they wil enter the lake of fire.

    Listen to yourself: you talk about 'churches'.

    The word 'church' is a Roman Catholic invention and the right word is assembly.

    Is this just a detail?

    No, because JESUS didn't start 'Christianity' or 'Christendom', nor did He command to build church buildings and cathedrals.

    JESUS started a living orgamism and a MYSTERY called the Body of Christ.

    Satan started a counterfeit: the Roman Catholic CULT and churches that came forth from this cult, so even Protestant churches, gathering on the PAGAN SUNday, celebrating the PAGAN 'Christmas' and the PAGAN 'Easter'=Ishtar.

    I'm an ex-atheist with almost no Christian-religious background, and I never wanted to have anything to do with 'Christianity'.

    The fact is: 'Christianity' had kept me away from God-JESUS the Bible.

    To hell with 'Christianity'!

    Long live JESUS Christ!
    Hans S
    5:48 AM




    +Bob Barber
    Amen: the great assignment is telling others of the gospel and JESUS Christ.

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  51. There is no Apostasy or Falling Away http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/07/there-is-no-apostasy-or-falling-away.html

    The remnant will be one third of God's chosen JEWISH people.

    The replacement theology is responsible for the blindness which many believers suffer from concerning Israel=Jakob.

    The last prophetic SEVEN years are about Israel and can only begin after the rapture, you don't want to believe in.

    The pre-trib rapture belief is much older than the futurism of the EVIL jesuit mr. Ribera.

    The whole idea of a 'falling away' is based on a WRONG translation of the Greek word 'apostasia' in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, which has NOTHING to do with 'apostacy' but with the word DEPARTURE.

    A departure of what and who?

    The Body of Christ, consisting of true, born again followers of JESUS Christ.

    They and the Holy Spirit are the restraining force against Satan and his two beasts of Revelation 13.

    I believe they have been identified: Pope Francis and Obama, but they have NOT yet been activated as the two beasts, because the Holy Spirit is still RESTRAINING them.

    The whole Bible is a JEWISH book and God Himself is a JEW: JESUS, aka Yeshua!

    The Roman Catholic CULT and its Jesuits HATE the Jews, because of JESUS!

    They know that the JEWISH Messiah, Jesus the Christ is going to end their reign of TERROR at His second coming.

    That's why the Vatican wants to OCCUPY all of Israel on behalf of Satan, BEFORE JESUS returns, thinking this will prevent His takeover of the world, while in the meantime Armageddon will be raging.

    But Satan is an IDIOT, just like the Pope, Obama and the evil Jesuits.

    JESUS will be VICTORIOUS!

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  52. NOT YET!
    The Body of JESUS Christ is still here!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  53. +de b
    Oh...I thought you told me you believe in the 'mid-trib'.

    But I'm glad you believe we're NOT appointed to God's terrible wrath, because JESUS isn't a 'wife-beater'.

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  54. The whole ANTI-pre-tribulation rapture movement is based on a WRONG translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 in the 'infallible' King James Bible and because the Jesuits had STOLEN this BIBLICAL concept for their own DECEPTIVE purposes, while I know it's as old as the Body of Christ JESUS.

    The fact that there are many who aren't really born again, who believe in the 'easy way out, called the pre-tribulation rapture', doesn't invalidate the truth about this Biblical doctrine.

    Another GRAVE misconception is the replacement theology, which is from the Satanic Vatican, and also many Protestants believe in this lie, which says that the Jewish people is not longer God's unique chosen people because of their rejection of JESUS.

    JESUS is a JEW and He will NEVER forget His OWN people!
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  55. Satan says: the pre-tribulation rapture is a dirty, filthy, stinking lie!

    SATAN HATES THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  56. +TIME IS SHORT PEOPLE
    The pre-tribulation rapture is NOT an escape!

    The pre-tribulation rapture is a PROPHETIC NECESSITY!
    Without the pre-tribulation rapture the two beasts of Revelation 13 can't be revealed!
    That's because the restrainer is the Holy Spirit, who's dwelling within the Body of Christ.
    Furthermore: 2 Thessalonians 2:3 has been wrongly translated in the KJV 1611:

    IS THE RAPTURE IN 2 THESSALONIANS 2:3?
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

    The Pope IS the Antichrist, because EVERY Pope claims to be the 'Vicar of Christ', meaning the 'instead of Christ', which is BLASPHEMY=SATANIC!

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  57. I really had hoped you would be wiser, but now you're attacking the pre-tribulation rapture AGAIN, claiming it's a LIE of the INSANE Papacy and CRAZY Satan!I really had hoped you would be wiser, but now you're attacking the pre-tribulation rapture AGAIN, claiming it's a LIE of the INSANE Papacy and CRAZY Satan!

    I will PROOF that you are wrong, and let me start right away: why do you think the two BEASTS of Revelation 13 have already been IDENTIFIED (the Pope and 'Obama') but are NOT yet functioning as the Antichrist and the False Prophet (though the Pope plays the role of False Prophet and 'Obama' plays the role of the Antichrist)???

    ANSWER: Because the Holy Spirit=JESUS in Spiritual capacity, is still on earth WITHIN the Body of Christ=the REAL BORN AGAIN Followers of JESUS, and the Holy Spirit is the RESTRAINER!!!

    You know why?

    BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY and ONLY HE is ABLE to RESTRAIN the DEVIL!

    You've been fooled by th SATANIC Roman Catholic CULT!

    SATAN HATES THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE and his SICK ATTACK on this DEVINE EVACUATION plan of God-JESUS is based on a WRONG translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3

    Rapture under attack! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

    I will PROOF that you are wrong, and let me start right away: why do you think the two BEASTS of Revelation 13 have already been IDENTIFIED (the Pope and 'Obama') but are NOT yet functioning as the Antichrist and the False Prophet (though the Pope plays the role of False Prophet and 'Obama' plays the role of the Antichrist)???

    ANSWER: Because the Holy Spirit=JESUS in Spiritual capacity, is still on earth WITHIN the Body of Christ=the REAL BORN AGAIN Followers of JESUS, and the Holy Spirit is the RESTRAINER!!!

    You know why?

    BECAUSE HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY and ONLY HE is ABLE to RESTRAIN the DEVIL!

    You've been fooled by th SATANIC Roman Catholic CULT!

    SATAN HATES THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE and his SICK ATTACK on this DEVINE EVACUATION plan of God-JESUS is based on a WRONG translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3

    Rapture under attack! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  58. +Ruckus Allen
    Hey Ruckus, please read this
    : http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2014/04/caught-up-alive-is-there-rapture.html?showComment=1410932560834#c8703067809422214998

    We must be like the WISE virgins and be ready ALL the time, and that's NO problem when we've ASKED the Father to fill us with His Holy Spirit (the spiritual oil within our lamps) in JESUS' name, and in the meantime were busy telling others of JESUS and the Bible, and we're encouraging each other, because JESUS wants us to LOVE each other.

    MARANATHA!

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  59. Well, I have some experiences of my own with believers in the post-tribulation rapture who were so full of HATE against believers in the pre-tribulation rapture, like myself.

    Sometimes I don't need Satan as an enemy, but I only have to go into debate with a 'post-tribber' and the blood is almost going to flow.

    I always say to people who believe in the post-tribulation rapture that they will get what they believe, and they will be persecuted and beheaded by the Antichrist, because they believe that JESUS is a sadistic, evil wife beater, who's using the two beasts of Revelation 13 in order to murder His own bride.

    The point is that only those will be raptured who are filled with God's Holy Spirit (the spiritual oil in our spiritual lamps) and who are longing to be with JESUS, just like the wise virgins.

    Believers who love this world will be left behind.

    Believers who really think that God has no special plan with His chosen Jewish people, and the remnant thereof, and who believe in the unbiblical replacement theology doctrine, will also be left behind, because they think they have replaced God's beloved Jewish people, and they really don't see that God Himself is a JEW, because JESUS is God.

    But, Sister I'm glad you love JESUS. http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.com/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html?showComment=1410932360757#c4244696039554420163

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  60. +de b
    The rapture will make the difference in the near future.

    After the SUDDEN! rapture everything will go VERY fast.
    Satan knows he's got only 7 years left after the rapture, but he knows as much as we do about the day and and the hour of this MOMENT: NOTHING!
    It's God's SECRET because the phenomenon of the Body of Christ itself is a MYSTERY!
    And in the meantime JESUS is still saving people, because He wants His House to be full.

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  61. +Fabio Hirt
    Post-tribulation rapture is nonsense and mid-trib too.

    The Jesuits are satanic idiots who know nothing about God's LOVE and GRACE.
    Receive what you believe, and I believe God is NOT angry at me and His wrath is NOT upon me, but it will be on anyone who doesn't want to love JESUS and His beloved.

    Have you ever ASKED God to be filled with the Holy Spirit, in JESUS' name?

    All who are filled with God's Holy Spirit will partake in the (pre-trib) rapture.

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  62. +Pyramid Unveiled
    Yes the saints of the period AFTER the pre-tribulation rapture.


    You don't seem to be willing to die for JESUS, because you don't even reveal your true name and identity...

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  63. +Joe Bach
    The rapture has everything to do with the restrainer, the Holy Spirit, WHO (it's a person: God in spiritual capacity) was SUDDENLY being poured out, being a MYSTERY,
    almost 2000 years ago.

    Just as SUDDEN the Holy Spirit will be taken away, INCLUDING those deceased believers who were filled with the Holy Ghost, and those who will be/are filled with the Holy Ghost at the moment of the rapture.

    Be RAPTURE READY by having ASKED the Father to be filled with HIS Holy Spirit.
    This is VERY important, because JESUS=God teaches this;

    World English Bible, 2002
    King James Version, 1611
    13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ASK him?"
    13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ASK him?
    Luke 11,13 http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Luke+11%2C13&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

    Example; "Father God, I ASK you in JESUS' name to fill me with your Holy Spirit..and I PRAISE YOU AND I THANK YOU and I WORSHIP YOU!
    THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, AMEN!"

    Please pass these instructions on, because not all believers are REALLY filled with God's Holy Spirit.

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  64. +Annie Oakley
    One doesn't see the pre-tribulation rapture
    if one doesn't make a distinction between God's plans with the Body of Christ and His plans with the (remnant of) Israel, and when one's mind has been poisoned by the replacement theology-doctrine.

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  65. +Pyramid Unveiled
    Why don't you use your OWN name and identity if you want to be brave and die for JESUS?


    You receive what you believe and no pre-tribulation rapture for you, unless the Holy Spirit shows you the truth about it, because the pre-tribulation rapture is BIBLICAL and it's going to happen, no matter what you say.

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  66. NONSENSE! But believe what you want and receive what you believe.
    The belief in the pre-tribulation rapture is MUCH older than the existence of the Jesuits.

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  67. +Laurie Dee
    You believe I believe in a lie and I believe you believe in a lie, so who is right and who is wrong?


    The rapture will make things clear, because the tribulation is GOD'S WRATH and I've already PROVEN that I'm willing to DIE for JESUS, but the tribulation is all about ISRAEL and the remnant thereof, because it's called 'Jacob's trouble' and NOT 'the Body of Christ's trouble'.


    But believe what you want and 'enjoy' the tribulation.

    I'm going to go to heaven and I'll return with JESUS, sitting on a WHITE HORSE, right behind Him, ready to FIGHT and DESTROY Antichrist and his 666-morons.

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  68. +Ash Qelon
    The concept of the pre-tribulation rapture is as old as the Body of Christ.

    Jesuits are liars and they had stolen this concept, claiming it was their idea.

    During the time they came up with their concept of futurism, most Protestants didn't know about the teaching of the pre-tribulation rapture because of another Catholic false teaching called the replacement theology, which falsely teaches that the Body of Christ (wrongly called 'the church') had replaced God's chosen people, the Hebrews.

    Most people who don't want to believe in the pre-tribulation rapture don't make a distinction between God's plan with His chosen people and the Body of Christ.
    They are blind to the fact that the whole Bible is a JEWISH book and that God Himself is a JEW: JESUS Christ, Yeshua HaMashiach.

    The coming tribulation is in the first place meant for God's chosen people and the remnant thereof, because God, aka JESUS is coming back in order to open the eyes of this remnant, which will be one third of all Jews and to save them, being His earthly Bride, while the Body of Christ is His heavenly Bride.

    Receive what you believe and if you don't want to believe in the BIBLICAL pre-tribulation rapture, then so be it.

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  69. +Grace Bride
    All those who claim to have received the Holy Spirit
    AND who are asserting that there is NO pre-tribulation rapture, are deceiving themselves and others, because it's impossible that God, through His Holy Spirit, is telling one group of believers that there is a pre-trib-rapture and to others there isn't, but instead a rapture at the moment JESUS will be returning, which is ridiculous.

    We all MUST be filled by the Holy Spirit (the oil in the lamps of the wise virgins) in order to take part in the (pre-trib) rapture and renounce the (Roman Catholic) 'replacement theology'.

    God is not a split personality!

    JESUS has taught us that we must ASK the Father to fill us with His Holy Spirit, in JESUS' name.

    Be RAPTURE READY by having ASKED the Father to be filled with HIS Holy Spirit.
    This is VERY important, because JESUS=God teaches this;

    World English Bible, 2002
    King James Version, 1611
    13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ASK him?"
    13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ASK him?
    Luke 11,13 http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Luke+11%2C13&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

    Example; "Father God, I ASK you in JESUS' name to fill me with your Holy Spirit..and I PRAISE YOU AND I THANK YOU and I WORSHIP YOU!
    THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, AMEN!"
    Hans S
    7:04 AM




    +kenny Bareega
    What's an 'Evangelical' or a 'Christian'?
    JESUS didn't start a 'church', but the BODY of CHRIST and He didn't start 'Christianity' but a LIVING ORGANISM, which is the Body of Christ, consisting of BORN AGAIN, Holy Spirit filled WORSHIPPERS of JESUS-God, who LOVE God and each other and God chosen people, the Jews, because many believers have been poisoned by the replacement theology-doctrine, which claims that the Hebrews are no longer God's chosen people, which is ABSURD, because JESUS is a JEW and He's (one with) God.
    JESUS will save a remnant of His people (one third) at His second coming, SEVEN years after the pre-tribulation rapture.
    The CRAZY Jesuits can't change God's plans, no matter how much they LIE and DECEIVE.

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  70. +kenny Bareega
    This is just not true what you're saying
    , but you rather believe an ex-Jesuit (Alberto Rivera) who had been poisoned by the CATHOLIC replacement theology doctrine, and you ignore the fact the pre-tribulation rapture teaching is as old as the Body of Christ.
    Alberto Rivera was right about MANY things, but he was WRONG about the (pre-tribulation) rapture.

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  71. +kenny Bareega
    When and where did I say I'm better than Israel? You are judgemental by calling me arrogant.

    Are you a child of the Father and do you LOVE JESUS Christ?
    kenny Bareega
    7:43 AM




    +Hans S
    What does that have to do with going before his people go? I will not leave without the Jews period. I am not better then they.
    Hans S
    8:43 AM




    +kenny Bareega
    Being a child of the Father and loving JESUS is everything, and do you realise that the FIRST followers of JESUS were mainly JEWS, and that ALL the Apostles were/are JEWS, and that the Body of Christ is consisting of born again JEWS and NON-JEWS?
    The coming tribulation has nothing to do with being 'better' than the Jews, but it's about being born again and being filled (sealed by) with the HOLY Spirit, who is the RESTRAINER of the Antichrist, the Papacy and the secular pawn of the Vatican, SATAN OBAMA.
    Not by coincidence the tribulation is being called 'Jakob's trouble, and NOT 'The Body of Christ's trouble'!
    We are not appointed to God's WRATH, and JESUS is NOT a 'wife-beater'.

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  72. +Hans S
    were is you evidence on "you ignore the fact the pre-tribulation rapture teaching is as old as the Body of Christ"
    because I try to find evidence on that and I its not in the bible and in any other book other than per-tribulasosinst book. 
    Hans S
    12:41 PM




    +Eric Turgeon
    You still haven't answered my question 'Are you a child of the Father and do you LOVE JESUS Christ?'
    Another important question is whether you have ASKED God to be filled with His Holy Spirit.

    The rapture has everything to do with the restrainer, the Holy Spirit, WHO (it's a person: God in spiritual capacity) was SUDDENLY being poured out, being a MYSTERY, almost 2000 years ago.

    Just as SUDDEN the Holy Spirit will be taken away, INCLUDING those deceased believers who were filled with the Holy Ghost, and those who will be/are filled with the Holy Ghost at the moment of the rapture.

    Be RAPTURE READY by having ASKED the Father to be filled with HIS Holy Spirit.
    This is VERY important, because JESUS=God teaches this;

    World English Bible, 2002
    King James Version, 1611
    13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ASK him?"
    13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ASK him?
    Luke 11,13 http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Luke+11%2C13&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

    Example; "Father God, I ASK you in JESUS' name to fill me with your Holy Spirit..and I PRAISE YOU AND I THANK YOU and I WORSHIP YOU!
    THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, AMEN!"

    I'm telling you this, because not all believers are REALLY filled with God's Holy Spirit.

    Being a believer is NOT enough!

    We NEED to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
    Why?
    Because it's ESSENTIAL and Biblical and the Lord JESUS has taught this!
    Hans S
    1:10 PM




    +Eric Turgeon I can give you evidence, but then I'll have to look it up, because I'm not a walking computer.
    But the best evidence is the Holy Spirit within me, and He's telling me (on behalf of JESUS) that God is NOT angry at me, so I won't have to endure the coming wrath of God by allowing Satan and his two BEASTS, the Antichrist (the Pope) and the False Prophet (Obama) to establish a world dictatorship on behalf of the VATICAN NWO and to start a last HORRIFIC INQUISITION on a MASSIVE scale.

    The remnant of Israel (one third) will be spared during this seven year period, and during this time many will become believers in JESUS, but they will be persecuted and killed (beheaded), because they will reject the 'mark of the beast'.

    They'll become believers, just as in the days BEFORE the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, about 2000 years ago, because the Holy Spirit will have been taken AWAY, INCLUDING those in whom the Holy Spirit will be indwelling, or had been indwelling during their life, because the deceased in Christ JESUS, who were filled with the Holy Spirit, will also be partakers of the rapture.

    You don't have to ask me questions in case the Holy Spirit dwells inside of you, because then you have the BEST teacher 'aboard' your mind and heart and soul (provided you're reading the Bible, because you love God): JESUS Christ, God almighty!

    Nice Google+ page you have and nice family and I'm also interested in operating systems.

    I think you'll like this: Welcome to my GUI Gallery

    http://toastytech.com/guis/index.html

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  73. +krystal sund
    Yes, the pre-tribulation rapture is the truth, but some believe it has been concocted by the Jesuits, called 'futurism'
    , in order to deceive and to distract people from the revelation that the papacy and the Pope are the Antichrist.
    It didn't work in my case, because I do believe that the Pope is the Antichrist, and Obama is his executor, but I still believe in the pre-tribulation rapture, because it's Biblical and prophetically necessary. http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

    JESUS be with us!

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  74. Ah, you are a reasonably recent and radical convert, who believes in the Biblical pre-tribulation rapture!

    Be even more radical, and reveal your name and look Satan straight into the eye!

    The internet and this world is Satan's realm (though not for long) and we are here to ANNOY him and to INFILTRATE on the Lord JESUS' behalf!

    Know even more about the pre-tribulation rapture, and JESUS be with us: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

    Hans, from the Netherlands

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  75. 24:20 There is no Apostasy or Falling Away http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/07/there-is-no-apostasy-or-falling-away.html

    The remnant will be one third of God's chosen JEWISH people.

    The replacement theology is responsible for the blindness which many believers suffer from concerning Israel=Jakob.

    The last prophetic SEVEN years are about Israel and can only begin after the rapture.

    The pre-trib rapture belief is much older than the futurism of the EVIL jesuit mr. Ribera.

    The whole idea of a 'falling away' is based on a WRONG translation of the Greek word 'apostasia' in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, which has NOTHING to do with 'apostacy' but with the word DEPARTURE.

    A departure of what and who?

    The Body of Christ, consisting of true, born again followers of JESUS Christ.

    They and the Holy Spirit are the restraining force against Satan and his two beasts of Revelation 13.

    I believe they have been identified: Pope Francis and Obama, but they have NOT yet been activated as the two beasts, because the Holy Spirit is still RESTRAINING them.

    The whole Bible is a JEWISH book and God Himself is a JEW: JESUS, aka Yeshua!

    The Roman Catholic CULT and its Jesuits HATE the Jews, because of JESUS!

    They know that the JEWISH Messiah, Jesus the Christ is going to end their reign of TERROR at His second coming.

    That's why the Vatican wants to OCCUPY all of Israel on behalf of Satan, BEFORE JESUS returns, thinking this will prevent His takeover of the world, while in the meantime Armageddon will be raging.

    But Satan is an IDIOT, just like the Pope, Obama and the evil Jesuits.

    JESUS will be VICTORIOUS!

    (see also above comment, 12 augustus 2014 07:16)

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  76. The restrainer is NOT Michael: Who is the restrainer the Bible talks about in 2 Thessalonians 2:6? http://www.compellingtruth.org/restrainer.html

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  77. +zeuz7771
    Ha ha, indeed!


    Post-trib is nonsense, because we're able to compute when the second coming will be from the time a covenant is being made between Israel and the Antichrist, because it will last exactly seven years until the second coming of Christ JESUS, while JESUS says it's not possible right now to be able to know when His coming will be, so in that sense the pre-tribulation rapture will be the decisive factor, because I believe this covenant will be made shortly AFTER the rapture.

    Many post-tribbers think that pre-tribbers are cowards and that this their true motivation to believe in the pre-tribulation rapture, but they don't see that the 'pre-trib' is a prophetic necessity.
    Greetings from Hans, from the Netherlands.

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  78. +Julio Sanchez
    I wasn't talking to you.
    I've always something constructive to say:

    We're lost without JESUS Christ and JESUS loves us and Satan hates us.

    The pre-tribulation rapture is true.

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  79. +Julio Sanchez
    I was talking to Satan, so don't interfere.


    Don't you worry about me: JESUS is coming for His Bride.

    Only children will enter the Kingdom of God-the Lord JESUS.

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  80. +Julio Sanchez
    I know the arguments against the pre-tribulation rapture and they STINK!


    Do some more investigation yourself: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/03/the-rapture-of-church-by-jack-kinsella.html

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  81. Really? So you're a Jew in the land of Israel who has been forced to obey the SUNday law of the Roman Catholic CULT and the Pope, who's the BEAST and the ANTICHRIST, which means that the BIBLICAL and DEVINE Sabbath has been PROHIBITED?

    Lesson 1: the Bible is a JEWISH BOOK; both the Old (first) and the New (second) testament.

    Lesson 2: JESUS was and IS a JEW and He's God in physical capacity, and He's ONE with God the Father, and there's only ONE God, which means that God is a JEW!

    Lesson 3: The prophetic word MUST be read and understood from the standpoint of Israel and Jerusalem.

    Lesson 4: JESUS is coming back to His OWN country and His OWN Capitol Jerusalem and His OWN Temple Mount, and to His OWN Temple=House of YHVH (I am, who I am), Har Habayit.

    Lesson 5: The 70th week of Daniel 9 is still UNFULFILLED, despite the LIES by so called learned scholars, who are misled by the Roman Catholic CULT and its SATANIC 'replacement theology doctrine'.

    Lesson 6: The start of this 70th 'week' of SEVEN YEARS will be AFTER the pre-tribulation rapture and AFTER the signing of a covenant between the MISLED government of Israel and the Vatican (NWO).

    Lesson 7: JESUS Christ is coming back as LORD of lords, and KING of kings, and He's going to DESTROY the SATANIC Vatican NWO and it's two BEASTS.
    And then His reign of 1000 years will start, and the WHOLE world will be made JEWISH, the way JESUS-GOD wants.

    This means the END of PAGANISM....FOREVER!

    Most current 'Christians' are still PAGAN minded.

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  82. +Julio Sanchez
    Lukewarmness
    http://biblehub.com/library/orr/how_to_live_a_holy_life/lukewarmness.htm

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  83. Here we go again: the pre-tribulation was RE-created and altered by these satanic Jesuits
    , because the Protestants back then weren't interested in the rapture, which is understandable, because awaiting the rapture wasn't yet relevant, about four centuries ago, and even the Jesuits knew this, so they waited about 300 years to come up with their false version of the rapture, which didn't focus on the Pope, being the Antichrist, but on a unknown and mysterious Antichrist, emerging 'out of nowhere'.
    Both the Protestants and the Catholics had been poisened by the satanic replacement theology doctrine, which originates from the Vatican.

    But the Jews are still God's chosen people, whether the gentiles like it or not, though only a remnant (one third) will repent and be saved, when JESUS comes.

    This conversion of the remnant of the Jewish people will happen seven years AFTER the rapture.

    The replacement theology doctrine is SATANIC and the root cause of the later Holocaust.

    Many 'Christians' are in fact anti-semites, even though they deny it.

    But JESUS is a JEW and FOREVERMORE!
    And He's GOD!

    Another reason for the denial of the pre-tribuloation rapture is the WRONG translation of 2 Thessalonians 2:3, though SEVEN Bible version were right concerning this verse, before the release of the King James Version 1611, because these versions made the right translation of the Greek word 'apostasia', which isn't 'apostacy' or 'a falling away' but the word DEPARTURE=the RAPTURE!

    It's obvious that certain Christians HATE the pre-tribulation rapture teaching, because they want to be (spiritual) Israel themselves!

    They HATE the fact that God still has a (seven year) plan with His chosen people after the rapture, which is the 70th year-week of Daniel 9.

    This year-week is still unfulfilled, no matter what antisemitic JEW-HATERS are teaching!

    The tribulation or the time of Jacob's Troubles, has NOTHING to do with the Body of Christ!





    And something else: in Matthew 24, when the Lord JESUS was talking about the things that would ( and will) happen in the last days, the Body of Christ (not the 'church': church is a Roman Catholic term, and it should be assembly) wasn't born yet!

    JESUS was talking to His JEWISH disciples, concerning the things that were(are) going to happen concerning the Jewish people, AFTER the rapture.

    The Body of Christ JESUS was SUDDENLY being born at Pentecost, and just as SUDDEN she will be TAKEN AWAY when the rapture occurs.

    The Holy Spirit within the Body of Christ is the RESTRAINER, and that's why the two beasts have been identified, but are not YET activated , because God is RESTRAINING them through His Holy Spirit within the Body of Christ.

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  84. +Deondre
    And amen to that!

    Adrian Snell - Alpha and Omega (The beginning and the end) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK7axBDma_0

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  85. +Freedom vs Tyranny
    So you're saying God didn't cleanse you from your sins and unrighteousness through the BLOOD of His ALTER EGO, the LORD JESUS Christ?

    So you believe you have to earn a place in heaven by being slaughtered by the Antichrist and Satan?

    NOT believing in the pre-tribulation rapture is FOOLISHNESS!

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  86. +Tippiann11
    This way of thinking is the ROTTEN FRUIT of the SATANIC, ROMAN CATHOLIC replacement theology doctrine!


    The pre-tribulation rapture IS in the Bible, but satanic IDIOTS have ALTERED 2 Thessalonians 2:3 in MOST Bible versions, INCLUDING the KJV 1611

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/10/god-is-jewforever.html

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  87. Followers of JESUS Christ aren't supposed to lie, but when it comes to the subject of the rapture all HELL's breaking loose!

    And I know WHY: SATAN HATES THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE, because he LOVES to MURDER all believers in JESUS Christ and all the Jews!

    Satan was MAD as hell when God took Enoch away from this dimension and Satan's realm, unto God's realm in heaven.

    He was mad as hell when JESUS rose from the dead and later ascended into heaven.

    And he will again be mad as hell when the Body of Christ will be EVACUATED into heaven, just before the start of the tribulation, or Jacob's Troubles, and Jacob is Israel.

    PAGANS, who now believe in the Lord JESUS Christ and who are saved by HIS JEWISH BLOOD, and who think they have become 'spiritual Israel', believe in a LIE.

    This LIE originates from the Roman Catholic CULT.

    There is NO 'spiritual Israel', because the JEWS are still God's chosen people, whether the Gentiles like it or not, and the 70th year week of Daniel 9 is still unfulfilled. http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_tribulation6.php

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  88. +Lacressha Powell
    You're not proclaiming JESUS but YOURSELF!

    YOU'RE LOST WITHOUT JESUS CHRIST and it's not forbidden to be LEFT BEHIND.
    But it is very STUPID!
    The pre-tribulation rapture is BIBLICAL!!
    Rapture under attack! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  89. +Dee M. Satan hates the DEPARTURE=the RAPTURE=the meaning of the Greek word 'apostasia' in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, and so the translators altered it into 'a falling away', on behalf of the HOMOSEXUAL King James and the SATANIC Vatican! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/king-james-was-homosexual.html
    Apart from this, the KJV 1611 is a GOOD translation.
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/03/king-james-vs-other-bible-versions-dr.html

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  90. +Wakeus from Slumber
    Is JESUS Christ your LORD and Master?

    If yes, then why do you suggest that a fellow believer in JESUS may be a swine=unbeliever?
    The pre-trib-mid-trib-post-trib-rapture isn't salvational.
    It's all about the blood of JESUS and His salvation, and believers who don't love fellow believers because they disagree on a subject which isn't about salvation, don't know JESUS.
    Millions of fellow believers in JESUS Christ are deceased, and they are asleep, and they await the resurrection of the dead.
    To them this subject isn't an issue anymore.
    I'm a believer in the pre-tribulation rapture and it's Biblical, and no one is able to take away my JOY about this firm conviction.

    Are you happy with your rejection of the pre-tribulation rapture teaching?
    Does this conviction give you JOY?

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  91. +Wakeus from Slumber
    Thanks for for your response and you didn't answer my questions and you don't seem to know JESUS, because you don't talk about Him.

    There are no people like me: I'm a UNIQUE creation of God-the Lord JESUS.
    Satan says that the pre-tribulation rapture is a false doctrine, and you seem to agree with him.

    Get to know JESUS Christ and start to LOVE Him.

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  92. +Wakeus from Slumber
    Are you afraid to use you real name and identity?

    God knows who you are and Satan too.
    The Holy Spirit=JESUS in spiritual capacity, provides extra information, and that's why I know that Satan hates the pre-tribulation rapture.

    Stop attacking and accusing followers of JESUS Christ and start to be a real follower of JESUS and stop being a coward by using a FALSE name and identity.

    JESUS doesn't like cowards!

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  93. +Wakeus from Slumber Here are verses of the pretribulation rapture that ARE IRREFUTABLE SCRIPTUAL EVIDENCES TEACHING A PRETIBULATION RAPTURE: Matthew 25:31,32 - "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory. And before him shall be gathered all nations" Carefully notice that Jesus is going to sit upon His throne in Jerusalem when He returns, and the nations of earth will be gathered before Him to be judged. How can this fact be reconciled with 1st Thessalonians 4:17, which states that the saints will be caught up together to meet with the Lord in the air?


    Matthew 25:32 to 34 - "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world." When the Lord returns to the earth at the Second Coming WITH His own, He is going to gather the nations of the earth together—separating the sheep from the goats (vs. 32), i.e., the righteous from the unrighteous. The sheep (saved) will simply enter the Kingdom, and the goats (unbelievers) be cast into everlasting fire. The test in this judgment is the treatment accorded by the nations to those whom Christ here calls "my brethren." These brethren are the Jewish remnant (i.e., the 144,000) who will have preached the Gospel of the kingdom to all nations during the Tribulation. Carefully notice, there is NO mention of a resurrection and the persons judged are the nations of the earth. In sharp contrast, according to 1st Corinthians 15:52 there WILL BE a resurrection at the time of the Rapture.







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  94. It is important to recognize that when Jesus returns to set up His Kingdom there is NO Rapture, i.e., no one is caught up into the air to be with the Lord. People who become Christians during the Tribulation Period will enter with their earthly bodies into the Millennium. Proof of this is found in Isaiah 65:20-25, and in Zechariah 8:5 where children are mentioned playing during the Millennium. Those saved during the Tribulation will enter physically into the Millennial Kingdom. Where will these humans come from if the saints are ALL raptured and changed at the END of the Tribulation, i.e., a Postribulation Rapture? Obviously this cannot be. The only logical conclusion is a Pretribulation Rapture!


    Jude 1:14 - "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints." Carefully notice that NO mention is made of a Rapture at this time. Quite the contrary, here the Lord Jesus is returning with TEN THOUSANDS of His saints to the earth. That is drastically different than having our bodies changed, in the twinkling of an eye, and being "caught up" into the clouds to meet with the Lord. It would make no sense to say that Jesus is going to Rapture the saints, while coming to set up His Kingdom at the same time. Proof that this is not the case is the fact that Jesus will gather the nations and separate the sheep from the goats, i.e., the saved from the unsaved, at His Second Coming. Why would Jesus separate the saints TWICE? That is, why would Jesus Rapture the saints into the air, and then regather the SAME people a short time later when He arrived on the earth? Do you see the dilemma of the Postribulation heresy?


    Revelation 19:11 to 14 - "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean." Here we read about ARMIES from Heaven, riding upon white horses, following Christ into the Battle of Armageddon. There is NO mention of a Rapture. There is NOTHING in 1st Corinthians 15:51-54 or 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18 about armies, or ten thousands of saints, coming to earth to war. The exact opposite is stated... we will be LEAVING this sin-cursed earth! Amen!
    Hans S
    7:36 AM




    +Deondre
    Amen!
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

    The Lord JESUS be with us!
    Wakeus from Slumber
    7:40 AM

    +Deondre No my friend. I never said you WERE one. SMH you like to take things way out of context. You are following a cult belief founded by the Jesuits. WOW... I could care less if you think I need help here or there. i am a professional that actually administers to the sick. Would you like me to step you through attempted suicides that I have had to counsel on? wow. you are a very vulgar and assumptive little person who is really putting his foot in his mouth. Learn some comprehension please. This is your argument? you have no jsutification for the PRE-trib cult lie that you are pushing so you chose to try and be a grammar nazi??? seriously? that pathetic trick? 
    Hans S
    7:41 AM

    +Deondre 'I think you need psychiatric help man.. '
    No, He needs JESUS Christ in case he doesn't want to be lost forever.
    Deondre
    7:42 AM




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  95. +Wakeus from Slumber Um, did you read the verses I showed you? I dont think you did. RE-READ THEM ! 
    Hans S
    7:48 AM




    +Wakeus from Slumber
    It's all about YOU and not about JESUS!
    SHUT UP IN JESUS' NAME, ACCUSER!!
    I love to annoy SATAN, and I can smell his followers and you're one of them!

    The SATANIC JESUITS want people to believe that they are the inventors of the pre-tribulation rapture teaching.....THEY'RE EVIL LIARS and they'll BURN in hell, unless they repent!

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  96. +Wakeus from Slumber
    You spread DESINFORMATION!

    'RAPTURE' ! is in the bible , NEW evidence ! PROOF pt 1 http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/11/rapture-is-in-bible-new-evidence-proof.html

    Only CHILDREN (of God-the Lord JESUS) will inherit the Kingdom of God!

    People who want to be 'smart' as Satan love this satanic world and they aren't longing to be where JESUS is.

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  97. +Wakeus from Slumber
    HA HA HA TWISTED SISTER! :-P......You and your wife...


    Wake us from Slumber.....TROLL!

    This will wake you from YOUR slumber: http://grooveshark.com/#!/search?q=Saint+Through+the+sky

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  98. +Lacressha Powell
    Do you love JESUS Christ and is He you Saviour?

    Hans S
    12:46 AM




    +Son NeverSets
    Only those who are longing to be where JESUS is, and who are like the WISE virgins will be caught up when the rapture occurs, and the ONLY rapture is the PRE-tribulation rapture!

    Any other rapture is NONSENSE!

    So it's very important what one believes!

    Someone who doesn't believe in the rapture, though told about it, is not really interested in JESUS Christ.

    This is the time that God-JESUS is separating the real believers in Him from the religious "Christians".

    I'm NOT a 'Christian': I'm a follower of JESUS.

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  99. +Wakeus from Slumber Yes, JESUS is God and He loves you and Satan hates you.

    Are you HAPPY with your ANTI-pre-tribulation rapture stance?

    The pre-tribulation rapture teaching is NOT an invention by the Jesuits: that's a STINKING, FILTHY, ROTTEN and SATANIC LIE from the father of lies, Satan.

    I never meet HAPPY mid- and post-trib believers.

    They are always attacking pre-tribulation rapture believers under the guise of 'warning'.

    Go tell the gospel to the unbelievers and dare to operate under your real identity and stop LYING.

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  100. +Deondre
    Amen and let's call Him JESUS!

    Hans S
    6:37 AM




    +Deondre
    Even if we die today, the pre-tribulation rapture is true, because the tribulation is NOT about the Body of Christ, but about the remnant (one third) of Israel.
    It's not by coincidence called the time of Jacob's Troubles, and Jacob is Israel.
    May Wakeus from Slumber, wake up from slumber and get EXCITED about our meeting in the air with JESUS!

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  101. +Wakeus from Slumber
    Prove you're a follower of JESUS by LOVING fellow followers of JESUS according to The High Priestly Prayer
    ... http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2011/06/het-hogepriesterlijk-gebed-high.html

    You can assert a BILLION TIMES that the pre-tribulation rapture teaching is a jesuit-concocted lie, but it's remains information through a former Roman Catholic and former Jesuit-priest, Alberto Rivera, who wasn't spiritually raised with much love for God's chosen people, the JEWS.
    The coming tribulation is NOT about the Body of Christ, but about ISRAEL and a REMNANT thereof!

    And that's why the Body of Christ MUST be removed before the TIMES OF JACOB'S TROUBLES, also known as the tribulation.

    MOST of the CONFUSION is due to the ROMAN CATHOLIC replacement theology LIE, saying that the Jewish people are no longer God's chosen people, which is a dirty, filthy lie of Satan!

    JESUS is a JEW, and He's coming back to rescue a remnant of HIS chosen, Jewish people!

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  102. +Wakeus from Slumber
    You're someone who's calling others who really love JESUS, jesuits.


    And you dare to say you 'Got JESUS and the Holy Spirit'.

    It's easy to type these words....but you won't show your face and tell me your real name.

    You're a TROLL!

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  103. The Jesuits are ROTTEN LIARS and they had HIJACKED the Biblical concept of the pre-tribulation rapture and ALTERED it for their own SATANIC purposes.

    Don't believe these SATANIC LIES, because it's based on the SATANIC Roman Catholic REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY MADNESS!

    The Roman SATANIC Catholic CULT HATES God's chosen people, the JEWS!

    The Time of Jacob's Troubles, which non-JEWS love to call 'the tribulation', is NOT about the Body of Christ, but about God's chosen people and a remnant (one third) thereof.

    Believers who have been POISONED by the EVIL replacement theology INSANITY are BLIND to the fact that God is a JEW, because JESUS is a JEW and He's God, and He still LOVES HIS chosen people, and He's coming to rescue this REMNANT of Israel=Jacob!

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  104. +TONY COSTANZO
    Based on which scriptures?


    There will be only ONE rapture, because it's a prophetic necessity!

    We ALWAYS MUST interpret prophesy from the viewpoint of ISRAEL!

    The Lord JESUS is coming back to JERUSALEM!

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  105. +TONY COSTANZO
    You know, Tony, I love the info coming from brothers like Alan Lamont, adam1984, Anthony Pope, but I dislike their attacks on the pre-tribulation rapture, saying it's a jesuit-concocted lie.

    I've studied their arguments, and the info of our deceased brother, Alberto Rivera, but I don't agree.
    I'm sure the jeuits hijacked the concept of the pre-trib-rapture in the past, because the Protestants back then weren't interested in the subject, because it still was much too early to be focused on the return of our Lord Jesus, and I know that even the jesuits kept their 'futurism'-doctrine for themselves for THREE centuries, before they started to come out with it, but I know that the pre-tribulation rapture teaching has always been part of the teachings of the Body of Christ, and right from the start in de days if the Apostle Paul.

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  106. +TONY COSTANZO
    Satan wants to murder all believers in JESUS Christ, and those that (have) fall(en) away
    from their (previous) pre-tribulation rapture-conviction, are in danger of being LEFT BEHIND, because they're NOT like the wise virgins who are READY and awaiting the coming of the Bridegroom (JESUS), while their lamps are filled with oil=being filled with the Holy Spirit.

    When the rapture happens, the Holy Spirit will be taken away, INCLUDING the deceased and living TRUE believers in JESUS Christ.

    The Holy Spirit is the RESTRAINER, restraining Satan and HIS Satanic Vatican NWO.

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  107. YES!
    GOD is a JEW....FOREVER!
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2014/10/god-is-jewforever.html

    Check out the links

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  108. +TONY COSTANZO
    Amen!

    Listen to OUR Jewish brother Chaim from California: http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/12/satans-great-lie.html

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  109. +poftc
    I suggest you read your Bible better, and know the JEWISH Heart of JESUS more.


    Start reading this: http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Ro+11&id32=1&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

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  110. +poftc
    The Jewish remnant of God's chosen people will not be saved as a nation, but simply because these people will be like the brothers of Joseph, when he revealed himself to them when they were in Egypt, and then they wept; first of guilt and later of JOY!
    JESUS is going to save this remnant because they are His FAMILY!


    Btw; we're saved through grace and by faith alone and not by works.

    Anyone who really loves JESUS wants to change his/her ways for the better and according to His will, and wants to PLEASE Him.

    I believe the rapture of the Body of Christ will occur BEFORE the start of the times of Jacob's Trouble (the tribulation), which will be a period of seven years, and then the Lord JESUS will return, together with His raptured Bride (though they'll remain citizens of heaven and heavenly beings), when He's going to meet the remnant of His people who will be His earthly Bride for a period of 1000 years.
    They will be joined by millions of people who will be resurrected at JESUS' second coming, because they were killed by the Antichrist during the tribulation, and of course those who will survive during the tribulation and who have become followers of JESUS Christ, and who refused to accept the mark of the beast= the Papal SUNday law, associated with the Papal world wide financial system, 666.

    The Pope of Rome is the Antichrist and Obama's USA and NATO is the military arm of the Vatican.
    The EU and the UN are also under the control of the Vatican and the JESUITS.

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  111. +poftc
    The pre-tribulation rapture teaching is as old as the Body of Christ, and it had been HIJACKED by the Jesuits, centuries ago, in order to cause CONFUSION,
    and with 'success', because you rather seem to believe what these satanic devils are saying, than what the HOLY SPIRIT is teaching, based on the Word of God, and mind you; the Holy Spirit is JESUS in spiritual capacity.

    You're focused on what Satan might do, and I'm focused on what JESUS is going to do.

    I'm prepared to DIE for JESUS, and I don't need the tribulation and God's wrath in order to prove it.

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  112. +poftc
    No, you're telling lies and you're proclaiming it as well.
    So it's your word against mine.

    I wish you a happy tribulation, and may you earn heaven by being a good and courageous martyr.

    I give all the GLORY to JESUS, who died a ROTTEN DEATH in my place.

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  113. He doesn't believe in the pre-tribulation rapture...poor fellow.
    Antichrist is going to chop his head off...but then he'll be saved, in case he'll refuse the accept the mark of the beast.

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  114. +poftc
    I'm an ex-atheist and I didn't become a follower of JESUS in order to listen to people with a christian-religious background, because most of them have been poisoned by the Roman Catholic replacement theology LIE.


    Most protestants are in fact pseudo-Catholics.

    I follow YESHUA HAMASHIACH, JESUS the MESSIAH, and His Body of Christ has not been appointed to His WRATH.
    The times of Jacob's Troubles (the tribulation) will be the time of God's wrath.

    You ACCUSE me of following Satan's doctrines and you ACCUSE me of not being willing to be corrected.

    Who the hell do you think you are?

    It's because of people like you I never wanted to have anything to with Christianity and religion in general!

    God Himself saved me and He's my ONLY teacher, and He's JESUS.
    You got that?

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  115. Jesuits are satanic scumbags and 'Futurism' is the HIJACK of the TRUE BIBLICAL rapture-teaching, which is as OLD as the Body of Christ!
    They devised this doctrine in order to create CONFUSION among believers in JESUS, combined with their SATANIC and EVIL 'replacement theology-LIE', meant to turn Protestants into JEW-HATERS and JEW-KILLERS!!!


    Luther was a JEW-HATER!!!

    Adolf Hitler was very well AWARE of this fact and, and so was SATAN and the (black) Pope!

    Many German protestants cooperated with the VATICAN devised NAZISM!

    Satan HATES the JEWS, because of JESUS the JEW, who happens to be GOD ALMIGHTY.


    THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE IS THE ONLY TRUTH, because the Body of Christ is NOT appointed to God's WRATH and JESUS is NOT an EVIL 'wife-BEATER'.

    JESUS doesn't want to MURDER His BRIDE, before He wants to marry her, because that is what the ANTI-pre-tribulation-rapture adherents are preaching.

    They are in fact preaching ROMAN CATHOLIC LIES FROM HELL!

    Anyone who is an adherent of the EVIL replacement theology SATANISM is my MORTAL ENEMY!

    MY FATHER IS A JEW; GOD, who's ONE with JESUS CHRIST.

    Let the PAGANS watch out because GOD is getting VERY ANGRY


    VERY ANGRY and DANGEROUS!

    HE IS A JEW!

    GET THIS TO YOUR HEAD!

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  116. +Watcher ForChrist
    There will be ONLY ONE rapture: the pre-tribulation rapture.

    Any other explanation is NONSENSE! https://plus.google.com/102946812367443831713/posts/LekmxLCTGaF

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  117. +Watcher ForChrist
    What's your first name, because if you dare to follow JESUS than you also dare to reveal your name?

    It's not about 'Satan's wrath', but about God's wrath during the 'time of Jacob's Trouble', and Jacob is ISRAEL.

    God is a JEW, for He's JESUS and the Bible is all about ISRAEL and especially the prophesies.

    We are grafted into the cultivated olive = Israel, and Jesus is the root, and not vice versa.

    Yes, believers in JESUS are being prosecuted and even killed, but this is not YET the so called TERRIBLE tribulation.

    The Holy Spirit is the RESTRAINER within the Body of Christ and He's still on earth.

    IS THE RAPTURE IN 2 THESSALONIANS 2:3?
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

    JESUS be with us!

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  118. +John Henry Reaves
    The WRONG translation:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

    You gave your own comment a +1 and you compare me with a DEMON SPIRIT....

    God is my Father and JESUS is INVENTOR & my SAVIOUR, so you'll have a lot to explain when you'll be standing before Him.

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  119. +Tippiann11
    God, aka JESUS will change your mind after the rapture, when you'll be left behind.


    Oh, and then the system will FORCE you to show your face and be open about your real identity and they will will try to make you accept the mark of the (Roman Catholic BEAST=POPE), and if you refuse, your head will be chopped off.

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  120. The Pope is the Antichrist and 'Obama' is his muppet.

    the WRONG translation:
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

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  121. +TONY COSTANZO
    Post-trib and mid-trib-rapture adherents think we're preaching a form of Satanism by believing in the pre-trib-rapture, or they think we're simply out of our minds and insane.


    It's really that sad.

    JESUS never commanded His followers to fight each other concerning the expectancy of His return.

    Sometimes I envy the deceased believers in JESUS who don't have to be confronted with these stupid differences of opinion anymore.

    They rest in PEACE.

    The MAIN issue of our faith is being saved by JESUS and NOT our end time expectancy/theology.

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  122. Of course JESUS knows when He's going to return, because He's GOD!
    He said this (no one knows when Jesus is coming not even the son) while He was on earth, being temporarily NOT fully God, but a 100% HUMAN.

    And many people misinterpret the word 'SOON', while it should be interpreted as 'coming as fast as LIGHTNING', when it will happen or 'QUICKLY' as it is being said in the KJV.

    30 years ago people said 'Jesus is coming soon', and 1000 years ago people said the same, and all based on this WRONG interpretation of the term ''QUICKLY"='coming as fast as LIGHTNING'.

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  123. It's the time of Jacob’s trouble, and not 'the tribulation' and it's about the (remant of) ISRAEL, and NOT about the Body of Christ, and it's going to last 7 years until the 2nd coming of JESUS, AFTER the pre-tribulation rapture, which is a Biblical and ancient teaching and NOT a SATANIC doctrine, according tohttp://www.gotquestions.org/Jacobs-trouble.html mid- en post-tribulation adherents.

    So, I'm giving the Rapture a NEW name: the pre-Jacob's Trouble-rapture.

    The dirty, satanic Jesuits did NOT invent the rapture-doctrine: these satanic scumbags ALTERED it!

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  124. +TONY COSTANZO
    I'm glad I'm not a Christian!

    I LOVE JESUS and God is my Father.
    The pre-time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture is THE TRUTH.......but only to those who REALLY love JESUS and who are longing to be with Him.
    I have NO DOUBT it's going to happen.

    It's a PROPHETIC NECESSITY!

    Even Satan knows this!

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  125. +Anthony Pope
    Jesuit futurism is the HIJACK and RAPE of the ORIGINAL and BIBLICAL teaching of the pre-time of Jacob's Trouble-rapture!


    The DIRTY jesuits have ALTERED it in favour of their SATANIC PURPOSES, because the Protestants who were living CENTURIES ago, weren't interested in the rapture, and they also had the WRONG ideas about God's CHOSEN people, because they were being taught the Roman Catholic LIE that 'the church' (the Body of Christ) had 'REPLACED' the Jewish people as God's chosen people, which is a BIG FAT LIE!

    In fact this teaching was the basis for the HOLOCAUST because even most German protestants did NOTHING against the Roman Catholic Vatican STOOGE, Adolf Hitler, when he and his Vatican controlled henchmen sacrificed the Jews and the followers of JESUS to LUCIFER. when they were being BURNED ALIVE in the ovens on orders of the black pope and Pope Pius XII.

    This teaching is also based on the WRONG idea that the 70th week of Daniel 9 has already been fulfilled.

    OF COURSE IT HAS NOT BEEN FULFILLED!!

    IT'S ABOUT THE JEWS, the JEWS, the JEWS!

    Why do PAGANS keep STEALING from what's meant for the JEWS?

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  126. +ProSecondAmendment
    JESUS=GOD wants His people to LOVE each other.

    Be glad that your fellow believers in JESUS aren't servants of Satan, thanks to God's GRACE.

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  127. +Yeshuasaidmyname Indeed there isn't a 'pre-trib rapture', because that terminology is WRONG: it's the pre - Time of Trouble for Jacob=Israel - RAPTURE and not of the 'church' (church is a Roman Catholic word), but of the BODY of CHRIST. Rapture under attack! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html
    One of the reasons I'm on Google+YouTube is to ANNOY Satan, and it's a real PLEASURE to ATTACK people who attack the pre - Time of Trouble for Jacob=Israel - RAPTURE-teaching.
    Are you ready for a FIGHT....in the name of JESUS, because I believe you are DECEIVING fellow believers in JESUS Christ?!

    Hans from the Netherlands, ex- ATHEIST.

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  128. +tonilynnfargo
    I'm Dutch and God-JESUS understands my language perfectly well
    , because He created it and in my language we speak of the 'opname', literally translated with 'up taking' or it could be translated with 'withdrawal' or 'taking away' or DEPARTURE, which is the right translation of the Greek word 'apostasia' in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, wrongly translated with 'a falling away.
    Yes, harpazó is also a term for the same event, BEFORE the 'Time of Trouble for Jacob', also known as 'the tribulation'.

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  129. +Chaplain Bob Walker B. Th. "I am not trying to pick a fight with you. Just want to help. the rapture or coming of Jesus was always thought of as at the end of the tribulation or jacob's trouble"

    We don't agree, but I'm glad you're not a SATANIST, and not going to HELL, because you believe in JESUS=GOD!

    Discerning The Trumpets (Revelation 1:8-10)
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/07/discerning-trumpets-revelation-18-10.html
    Hans S
    12:15 AM




    +Chaplain Bob Walker B. Th. IS THE RAPTURE IN 2 THESSALONIANS 2:3? http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html
    Hans S
    12:16 AM




    +Chaplain Bob Walker B. Th. Satan HATES the pre-tribulation rapture! http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2015/01/satan-hates-pre-tribulation-rapture.html

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  130. +Chaplain Bob Walker B. Th.
    You are a LIAR and an ACCUSER, and by saying these things I declare you to be an adversary, and NOT my brother in JESUS Christ.

    You're also a PROUD person who likes to call himself a 'chaplain'.
    Who the HELL do you think you are?
    And why do you want to ATTACK my Biblical conviction about the pre-Times of Trouble for Jacob=ISRAEL-rapture?

    Because you don't love JESUS, because JESUS is a JEW and He's God!

    You cannot EARN God's MERCY by becoming a MARTYR.

    Get of your high horse and HUMBLE yourself unto the LORD JESUS and don't be STUPID, because God doesn't appoint His BELOVED to HIS WRATH.
    God doesn't want to SLAUGHTER His OWN BODY of Christ.
    Satan wants to MURDER every SINGLE follower of JESUS Christ.
    It won't happen!

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  131. +Chaplain Bob Walker B. Th. Ah, 'Yeshuasaidmyname' is siding with you, because she gave your comment a +1.
    Let me WARN you: ONLY CHILDREN will enter the Kingdom of God, and NOT self-righteous EX-children, who think they know it all.
    You can come up with a GAZILLION 'arguments', but you're DEAD WRONG!

    Repent from this Roman Catholic, replacement-theology way of thinking, because the 'tribulation' is meant for ISRAEL and the remnant (one third) thereof.

    JESUS Christ is coming back to HIS country and HIS Jerusalem in order to save HIS remnant of His CHOSEN people.

    This has nothing to do with the Body of Christ.

    The SATANIC Jesuits are LIARS and they LIE when they assert they've invented the pre-tribulation-rapture by calling it 'futurism'.

    The pre-tribulation-rapture teaching is as old as the Body of Christ.

    It's not forbidden to be left behind and to be beheaded by the Antichrist, so I wish you an 'exciting tribulation', and may God be with you.

    But remember: anyone who lives by the sword, will die by the sword.

    In case you're courageous enough to refuse the mark of the beast and face the consequences, you'll be saved, but you'll have to wait 1000 years before you'll join me in the heavenly realms and on the New Earth and in the New Jerusalem.

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  132. Real, HOLY Spirit filled FOLLOWERS of JESUS will be raptured, but 'Christians' who are not filled with the Holy Spirit will be left behind, because their 'lamps' (hearts, minds and souls) aren't filled with OIL=the Holy Spirit!
    Hans S
    1:23 PM




    +TONY COSTANZO Don't listen to this person, because he doesn't know that 'the tribulation' is all about ISRAEL and the remnant thereof, and NOT about the Body of Christ, WRONGLY called 'the church'.

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  133. The rapture comes EXACTLY on time: JESUS is BUSY rescuing SOULS for eternity!
    Be busy too and tell people about the BLESSED HOPE to be able go to JESUS in the near future!

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  134. Don't watch ANTI-pre-tribulation-rapture 'explanations', because they STINK!
    It's all based on the ROMAN Catholic REPLACEMENT theology LIE!
    The 'tribulation' (the Time of Trouble for Jacob=Israel) is first and foremost meant for God's CHOSEN people, and the remnant (one third) thereof.
    It has NOTHING to do with the Body of Christ, and the true JESUS-followers.

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  135. +TONY COSTANZO
    Then don't listen to them!

    I only listen to Alan Lamont when he's informative about the Vatican NWO, but we DON'T agree on the rapture, and he's wrong about it, and he thinks I'm wrong about it.
    Too bad for him, but I'm going to be raptured, thanks to JESUS, and he wants to be a martyr during the coming persecution.
    I'm not afraid to die, but I know I'm not appointed to God's wrath.

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  136. +Carl Gallups This is another DISGUSTING and VILE ATTACK on the BIBLICAL PRE-Times of Trouble for JACOB=ISRAEL-RAPTURE teaching, based on a CORRUPT translation of the BIBLE!

    WRONG and CORRUPTED translations of 2 Thessalonians 2:3:

    GNB-translation
    3 Do not let anyone deceive you in any way. For the Day will not come until the final Rebellion takes place and the Wicked One appears, who is destined to hell.

    KJV-translation
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    This is the RIGHT translation (concerning the GREEK KEY-word 'apostasia'):

    WEB-translatation
    3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction,

    The DEPARTURE (apostasia) is the RAPTURE!

    ONLY the HOLY SPIRIT= GOD-JESUS in SPIRITUAL CAPACITY is ABLE to RESTRAIN the DEVIL and the ANTICHRIST!

    http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=2+Th+2%3A3&id33=1&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

    SATAN HATES THE PRE-"TRIBULATION"-RAPTURE!!

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  137. +Gina B "I don't want an argument over the word of God"
    You mean about YOUR interpretation of God's word.

    You're an ex-Catholic who has never learned to make a DISTINCTION between God's plans with His chosen Jewish people and with the Body of Christ.
    After the rapture the 'Times of Trouble for Jacob=ISRAEL' will start, WRONGFULLY called 'the tribulation', as if it has anything to do with the Body of Christ, and as if the Body of Christ has been appointed to God's WRATH.

    One is SAVED and SEALED by only believing in what JESUS has done on the cross, and martyrdom won't add to God's AMAZING GRACE.

    Please reconsider your stance and realise that the pre-times of trouble for Jacob=Israel-RAPTURE is a necessaty .
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2012/02/rapture-under-attack.html

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  138. +Topcat
    You arrogance will show, AFTER the rapture.

    I'm so glad I've never been a 'Christian', so Satan couldn't POISON me with his ROMAN CATHOLIC replacement theology CRAP, 'teaching' (LYING) that the 'church' had replaced God's chosen people, the Jews.
    The pre-TIMES of TROUBLE for JACOB=ISRAEL-rapture teaching is as old as the Body of Christ.

    What you believe is in fact a form of ANTISEMITISM, and the Roman Catholic (Vatican pawn) Adolf Hitler LOVED the FACT that most Protestants were being poisoned by the SATANIC replacement theology, so that they did NOTHING when the persecution of the Jews started, because they believed the Jews were no longer God's chosen people.
    And not only the German protestants believed this ROMAN CATHOLIC LIE, but also the protestants in my country, the Netherlands, with the result that most of the Dutch Jews were being murdered by the (Catholic) Nazis, except those who could hide in places where people lived who sympathized with the Jews.
    But in fact MOST of the world was being poisoned by this DIRTY Catholic lie, and Jewish refugees were almost nowhere welcome, prior to the outbreak of the (Vatican-JESUIT initiated) '2nd world war', and in some cases Jews were being sent BACK to Nazi-Germany.

    The last of the 70 weeks of Daniel 9 is still unfulfilled and meant for Israel and the remnant (one third) thereof.
    It has nothing to do with the Body of Christ, so the Body of Christ must be evacuated to heaven in advance, and also because the Holy Spirit is the RESTRAINER of the Antichrist.

    God is a JEW, because He's JESUS, and the whole Bible is a JEWISH book.

    The prophecies concern Israel and the Jewish people.

    The Body of Christ is a 'MYSTERY' that started with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit and that will end (in this dimension) with the withdrawal of the Holy Spirit, including the born again, Holy Spirit filled believers (deceased and alive).

    After the rapture it's possible to become a believer in the same way as it was BEFORE the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

    You don't seem to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and I wonder whether you've ever ASKED God to be filled with His Spirit in JESUS' name:

    Be RAPTURE READY by having ASKED the Father to be filled with HIS Holy Spirit.
    This is VERY important, because JESUS=God teaches this;

    World English Bible, 2002
    King James Version, 1611
    13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ASK him?"
    13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ASK him?
    Luke 11,13 http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Luke+11%2C13&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

    Example; "Father God, I ASK you in JESUS' name to fill me with your Holy Spirit..and I PRAISE YOU AND I THANK YOU and I WORSHIP YOU!
    THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, AMEN!"
    Hans S
    10:51 AM




    +Topcat Something else: what's your real first name?

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  139. +amy2x
    You talk about the 'GREAT TRIBULATION', while it's about 'The Times of Trouble for Jacob', and JACOB = ISRAEL, God's JEWISH, CHOSEN PEOPLE!

    All 'mid-trib' and 'post-trib'-rapture believers are being brainwashed by the ROMAN CATHOLIC REPLACEMENT theology LIE!

    Something else: the 'shroud of Turin' was STOLEN by the Roman Catholic CULT, the true church of Satan, and that's why it's now being called that way.
    It's the shroud of JESUS and it's a true MIRACLE.
    But we don't need this miracle in order to believe, that's right.

    STOP being a PSEUDO-ROMAN CATHOLIC, by believing in ROMAN CATHOLIC LIES and become a REAL follower of JESUS Christ.

    The Holy Spirit within all true BORN AGAIN followers of JESUS Christ is the RESTRAINER of the Antichrist.
    The Antichrist is the EVIL POPE of ROME, and 'Obama' is his MUPPET.

    Consider this:

    the WRONG translation:
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

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  140. +amy2x
    So because of FALSE TEACHERS who have CORRUPTED the gospel and who are in fact servants of the SATANIC Roman Catholic CULT, you choose to reject sound Biblical doctrine?

    Satan is laughing at you, because you're 'stupid enough' (in his evil eyes) to believe it.

    I commented to you before on this thread, so would you be so kind to respond?

    I'm Dutch and not an American, and I'm shaking my head about the GARBAGE that's coming from the USA like the EVIL 'prosperity gospel'.

    This is a typical American phenomenon!

    It's DISGUSTING!

    People like Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland are EVIL and they serve the Vatican and the Pope, but it's NONSENSE to drop the sound pre-Times of Trouble for Jacob-rapture because of the FALSE TEACHINGS of these CROOKS.

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  141. +amy2x Is this all you could say?
    I'm familiar with the documentary 'Satanic Vatican', and if you check out my site, you'll see I know quite a bit about this subject, but what has this got to do with the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture?
    My site: Satanic Vatican http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/search/label/Satanic%20Vatican

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  142. +amy2x
    Have you watched the whole video of Bryan Denlinger?
    He's saying the same as me and the Bible doesn't speak of 'the great tribulation', but of the 'Time of Jacob's Trouble'.

    You still don't see that you've been misled by the Catholic replacement theology, because 'the church' (wrong Catholic word for 'the Body of Christ) has NEVER 'replaced' God's chosen people, the Jews!
    The coming 'Times of Trouble for Jacob' has nothing to do with the Body of Christ, but with Israel and the remnant (one third) thereof.
    You talk about the persecution of Christians, but are you sure they are born again followers of JESUS Christ?
    You talk about a Bishop, but what have I got to do with a Catholic clergyman?
    I'm an ex-atheist, who became a follower of JESUS, and I didn't become a 'Christian', and I'm still not a 'Christian', but a JESUS-follower.
    Did you ever ASK the Father to be filled with the Holy Spirit, in JESUS' name?
    If so, than how can the Holy Spirit convince you of the 'fact' that the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture is a DANGEROUS FALLACY and me that it's a SOUND and BIBLICAL DOCTRINE?

    Is the Holy Spirit INSANE?

    OF COURSE He's not insane!

    God, aka JESUS, is NOT a 'WIFE-BEATER'!

    He's not going to chastise His wife (the Bride) into SUBMISSION.

    Do Bryan and me promote the idea that there's no chance we will be persecuted or experience tribulation?

    OF COURSE NOT!

    You gave the example of Corrie ten Boom (say: ten Boam), from my country, the Netherlands.

    Her story is here on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX0GwjXExFE

    She was a 'Christian', yes, but she became a real follower of JESUS after her arrest and deportation to Ravensbrück, and she still had things to learn.
    Her older sister Betsie is in my opinion the real spiritual hero of this story, because she was able to love her enemies, while Corrie still struggled with feelings of hate and doubt.
    Betsie knew she was going die, to be with JESUS.

    After the war and when she was old, she was knighted by the Queen of the Netherlands, who is a servant of the Vatican!

    I don't think Corrie was aware of this, but in hindsight it's bittersweet.

    Just because FALSE teachers (like 'prosperity gospel' CROOKS) also teach the doctrine of the 'pre-trib-rapture', this doesn't mean that the pre-Times of Trouble for Jacob-rapture is untrue.

    You just don't BELIEVE in it, so you REJECT it, period.

    But you know what?

    It's okay, because if you are prepared to become a martyr AFTER the rapture, then so be it.

    But let me make one thing clear: you cannot EARN your salvation in doing so!

    If you think you must earn your salvation, than JESUS has died in VAIN for you.

    If you call me or Bryan or other pre-Times of Trouble for Jacob-rapture adherents, believers who have been deceived, then I tell you that you have been deceived by Roman Catholic doctrine, because the teaching of the rapture is as old as the Body of Christ.

    I know one who's LAUGHING about all this CONFUSION: SATAN!

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  143. +msged2007
    I've always been thinking for myself and the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture is in the Bible, but you won't see it if you call it the 'pre-tribulation-rapture'
    , because the Times of Jacob's Trouble is NOT about the Body of Christ, but about ISRAEL and the remnant (one third) thereof, and you won't see it if you're way of thinking has been influenced by the Roman Catholic replacement theology fallacy.
    The Roman Catholic CULT HATES the Jews, and they want to MURDER them all, or use them in such a way that the whole world believes all evil derives from the Jews, just like what the Jesuit-inspired Roman Catholic Adolf Hitler did.
    That's why they use Jews like Henry Kissinger, Shimon Peres, George Soros and others, who cooperate with the Vatican NWO.

    But hey....if you like to be on earth when God will pour out His wrath, then so be it.

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  144. +msged2007
    We clearly disagree on this, and you can tell me a million times I've got it wrong
    , but your choosing of words shows that you're 'church people', the way you use the word 'church'.
    I've got something good to say about Dutch translations, because only the Dutch Roman Catholic 'translation' (rape of God's Word) uses the Dutch equivalent for the word 'church' (kerk) and all the others use the word 'gemeente' (chemaintuh) which means assembly, and which is the right word.
    The World English Bible is one of the few English translations which uses the word 'assembly' instead of the Catholic word 'church':
    http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&q=church&step=20&qall=1&qids=ffffffffffffffffffffff7f&idq=8&id14=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en&q1=1

    JESUS is a JEW and He didn't start a 'church' or 'Christianity', but a living organism led by the Holy Spirit.

    The last week of years of the 70 weeks of years of Daniel 9 is still unfulfilled, because it's concerning Israel and not the Body of Christ.
    It will be fulfilled after the rapture.

    I don't expect you'll agree, so this is a waste of time.

    Only God=JESUS=a JEW, is able to open your eyes.

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  145. +msged2007 Concerning salvation there's no distinction between Jews and non-Jews, but concerning God's plans with the Body of Christ and His chosen people Israel there's a HUGE difference.
    You say your eyes have been opened, but not concerning this issue.
    You're eyes will be opened after the rapture.
    I leave it up to God, aka JESUS.
    Read Zechariah 12,13 and 14
    http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Zec+12&id14=1&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en&idp0=15&idp1=8

    My God and my Father is a JEW!

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  146. +msged2007 "I know where you major problem is though"

    I don't have a major problem: you have a major problem, because your whole idea of the end time is based on the Roman Catholic replacement theology.
    You're presumptuous by suggesting that I'm one of those people who mindlessly believe in the pre-time of Jacob's trouble-rapture.
    You will never be able to make me see it from your point of view, so I choose to end this debate, because I've already had many debates on this subject and first on Dutch sites and also in English, and it always ends in a stalemate.

    For this fellow believer the debate is IRRELEVANT, because he passed away at the beginning of 2013, but one of his legacies is this great article on the matter: The Rapture of the Church - by Jack Kinsella http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/03/the-rapture-of-church-by-jack-kinsella.html

    Be HAPPY with your convictions, and I'll be happy with mine, and I'm not going through the Times of Jacob's Trouble, because I'm a member of the Body of Christ JESUS.

    This is your thread, so feel free to have the last word.
    In case you keep believing in JESUS during the coming tribulation, I'll be seeing you after 1007 years, after the rapture and after the Final Judgement and on the BRAND NEW Earth.
    Hans S
    7:16 AM




    +msged2007
    This fellow believer has also passed away, and he's enjoying his REST in JESUS' realm, where he's awaiting the resurrection of the dead and the pre-times of Trouble for Jacob-rapture: There is no Apostasy or Falling Away http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/07/there-is-no-apostasy-or-falling-away.html
    Hans S
    7:17 AM




    +msged2007
    Finally: Discerning The Trumpets (Revelation 1:8-10) http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/07/discerning-trumpets-revelation-18-10.html

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  147. Not well said, because the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-Rapture is the truth. People who are saying it's a lie are believing in a LIE themselves, because they're adherents of the SATANIC ROMAN CATHOLIC REPLACEMENT theology!
    The SATANIC Jesuits are LIARS by claiming that they've invented the 'pre-tribulation-rapture'.
    Yes, they invented 'Futurism', which is a TOTAL RAPE of the original and Biblical pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture-teaching, and the former ROMAN CATHOLIC Jesuit priest, Alberto Rivera was being used by these DEVILS in order to spread CONFUSION and to make fellow believers in JESUS Christ each others' ENEMIES!
    Yes, people like Tim LaHaye and Hal Lindsey were being used in order to divert attention away from the Pope/Papacy as the (seat of the) Antichrist, and to point to a 'mysterious' future world dictator, with no obvious connection to the SATANIC VATICAN.
    BUT THEY FAILED, because I am PROOF of someone who believes in the BIBLICAL pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture, and who ALSO knows for SURE that the Pope/the Papacy is the Antichrist.
    The SATANIC Jesuits knew that the 'Protestants' or the 'Reformers' remained to be PSEUDO-CATHOLICS through CENTURIES of BRAINWASHING by the Roman Catholic CULT through the DIABOLICAL teaching of the REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY, which is nothing less than HATRED toward the JEWS, God's CHOSEN people.
    Most Protestants also celebrate the BABYLONIAN, Catholic 'Christ-Mass' and 'Easter'=Ishtar and they gather on the Roman Catholic SUN-day.
    That's why so many German and European Protestants cooperated with the Roman Catholic NAZIS, or did NOTHING when the Jews went up in flames ALIVE in the BURNT OFFERINGS to SATAN=the NAZI OVENS in eastern Europe, during world war 2.
    All because NON-JEWS had started to believe that they are 'spiritual Israel', which is a DISGUSTING, ROMAN CATHOLIC LIE!
    These people (like Alan Lamont) still use CATHOLIC words like 'church', while the right word is ASSEMBLY.
    Satan LOVES the word 'church', because it generates associations with CHURCH BUILDINGS, CHURCH BELLS and CHURCH TOWERS, CHURCH ORGANS, all things that have alienated most Jews from the true Body of Christ JESUS-YESHUA, and not only Jews, but also people like me, because I'm an ex-atheist and I HATED CHURCH BUILDINGS, CHURCH BELLS, CHURCH TOWERS, CHURCH ORGANS, because it's a ROMAN CATHOLIC INVENTION.
    These HUMAN INSTITUTIONS have NOTHING to do with the LOVE of JESUS Christ.
    The true Body of Christ JESUS-YESHUA doesn't need these kinds of GARBAGE.
    All 'official churches' are under the control of SATAN, and it has a LOT to do with MONEY.
    But the TRUE Body of Christ is FREE, because its members can gather ANYWHERE, like in a normal house.

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  148. +Jim Beckwith
    I just speak my mind, Jim, and I don't hate fellow believers in JESUS who dare to say that the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture is a Jesuit-concocted LIE, while they themselves follow the Roman Catholic replacement theology.


    See it this way: some (or maybe a lot of) believers are needed AFTER the rapture in order to spread the gospel to as many people as possible, and we know that MANY of them will become martyrs.

    They can't disturb me anymore, because I'm SURE the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture is a prophetic NECESSITY.

    I wish them 'Gods speed' during the tribulation/times of Jacob's trouble.

    The Lord JESUS be with us!

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  149. +MeatTheBible
    It's not forbidden to be left behind after the pre-Times of Jacob's-RAPTURE=DEPARTURE


    The WRONG translation:
    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    This is the RIGHT translation:

    World English Bible 2002

    2 Thessalonians 2:

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except the departure comes first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.

    The DEPARTURE = the RAPTURE!

    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/11/is-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23.html

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  150. +Anthony Pope I'm strongly against the Papacy, but I'm also strongly in favor of the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture and I know you believe Daniel 9's 70th week is over, but I don't agree on this, because JESUS is a JEW and He's coming back to rescue the remnant (one third) of His people at His Second Coming.
    I don''t believe the Times of Jacob's Trouble has anything to with the Body of Christ, and I also don't believe the so called Khazar-fake Jews-fairy tale.
    http://ezekiel38rapture.blogspot.nl/2013/04/bad-news-for-jew-hating-israel-haters.html

    Yes, there are bad Jews, just as there are bad Americans and bad Dutch, and some of them cooperate with the Vatican NWO and the state of Israel is cooperating with the Vatican NWO too, and TWO third of the Jewish people will accept the mark of the beast in the future, but it's all about this ONE THIRD which JESUS is going to rescue.

    8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. 9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
    Zechariah 13


    That's what the Times of Jacob's Trouble is all about and Jacob=Israel and NOT the Body of Christ, and the Body of Christ is not appointed to God's wrath, so God-the Lord JESUS will EVACUATE His Body of Christ (to heaven) before the start of the Times of Jacob's Trouble, which many call the 'great tribulation', as if it's not primarily about Israel=Jacob, but about 'the church'.

    We agree on the Pope/the Papacy as being the Antichrist and furthermore I believe 'Obama' (Barry Davis) is the executor of the Pope and Satan, just like Hitler and Stalin in the past, and it's no coincidence he's a MUSLIM, and we know that Islam was created by the SATANIC Vatican.

    At this very moment the two beasts of Revelation 13 aren't yet activated by Lucifer/Satan and that's because the RESTRAINER is still on earth, and this restrainer is the Holy spirit=God in spiritual capacity, and only God is strong enough to keep Satan from taking full control of this world through the Papacy and its Jesuits.

    The Jesuit doctrine of 'futurism' is a BIG LIE, meant to deceive real believers in JESUS, suggesting that the teaching of the pre-Times of Jacob's Trouble-rapture had been invented by them, which is a BIG LIE

    Don't listen to these SATANIC, EVIL IDIOTS FROM HELL!

    I'm sure they deceived Alberto Rivera on this issue, because Alberto Rivera was a Catholic (and a Jesuit) and Catholics believe in the Roman Catholic replacement theology LIE, and they don't love the Jews, because they believe that Jews are 'God-killers'!
    Many Protestants are in fact pseudo-Catholics, because they are poisoned by the replacement theology LIE too.
    God NEVER 'replaced' His own chosen people with another entity, like the Body of Christ.
    The Body of Christ and God's chosen people exist side by side.

    But, Anthony, I'm glad you love our Lord JESUS Christ, and that's the MOST important thing!

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  151. +joggler66 +Anthony Pope
    When JESUS said; "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine" He was NOT talking about believers in Him, but about UNBELIEVERS.


    The replacement theology is a Roman Catholic lie, which made many believers in Jesus Christ believe that the Jews are no longer God's chosen people.

    They should read the Bible better: I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid.
    http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Rom+11&id7=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

    Why is it so hard for you to understand that JESUS is a JEW?

    When God decided to become a Jew Himself through Miriam (Mary) the Jewish virgin, He didn't do this by accident.

    Why is it so hard to understand that the prophetic word is about Israel, and JESUS isn't coming back to Washington, Moscow, Amsterdam or Brussels, but to JERUSALEM.

    Satan knows this very well and that's why he wants to own all of Israel, through the Vatican NWO, BEFORE the coming of his ENEMY, JESUS Christ!

    Why is it so hard to understand that the 70th week of Daniel 9 is still unfulfilled?

    Why is it so hard to understand that the coming tribulation is in the FIRST place about Israel and the remnant thereof?

    So, if it's about Israel, then there should be a country and a people with that name, and that happened in 1948.

    They (the founders of the state of Israel) could have given it another name, and in fact I know they almost gave it another name, but then someone said 'why don't we just call it Israel?', and then David Ben-Gurion and the Jewish gathering decided that this would be the best option.

    +Anthony Pope Martin Luther was a notorious anti-Semite!

    In 1523, Luther advised kindness toward the Jews in That Jesus Christ was Born a Jew, but only with the aim of converting them to Christianity. When his efforts at conversion failed, he grew increasingly bitter toward them. In 1543, his most egregiously anti-Semitic book was published, On the Jews and Their Lies, in which he makes outlandish statements regarding the Jews, calling them "a base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth.”

    It’s impossible to know what was in Luther’s heart as he penned these awful things. Was he truly a Jew-hater? Or was his passion for the truth of Scripture and for Jesus Christ—who was rejected by the Jews—so overwhelming that he felt compelled to condemn the Christ-rejecters to whoredom in the same vein as the prophet Hosea who compared the Jews who rejected their God to whores and prostitutes? Whatever his motivation, it is clear that Luther’s writings were used as Nazi propaganda. Largely ignored during the 18th and 19th centuries, On the Jews and Their Lies surfaced during the run-up to World War II, when it was displayed at the Nazi rallies in Nuremberg. Of course, the long history of German hatred of the Jews played a much more significant role in bringing about the Holocaust than did Luther’s writings.

    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Martin-Luther-anti-semitic.html#ixzz3XTbYu5Zb

    You said 'Jesus died in 31 A.D'

    No one can accurately say in what year JESUS died, because no one (except God) knows EXACTLY in what year He was born!

    So you can't base any calculations on His alleged year of death and resurrection.

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